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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....riiiiiiight. Dude...you need to get out more. Have you not seen any of the polling? 90% of the country is in favor of reasonable gun control measures such as background checks and registration. 80% are in favor of banning assault type weapons. This is exactly WHY the right-wing and the NRA are engaging in these despicable and vile attacks. The issue is resonating with the country and they will fight ANY and EVERY effort to put ANY restrictions on weapons. The fact that they would scoop so low to label this mother a "prostitute" and a "whore" clearly shows their desperation and how low their morals can sink. Disgusting.
    And you need to venture outside of LA more.

    I live in a normal place that isn't morally or financially bankrupt, and we have a scoche of the gun-related violence you do.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think the cop acted appropriately.
    I think the officer acted stupidly!!

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I didn't call her anything, but I don't get caught up in tabloid lingo and emotion of the issue. I focus on the issue itself.

    Decisions should never be made under emotional duress. The worst decisions almost always are.
    But all you conservatives are just as emotional. Here is the difference:

    You guys believe that your love for your guns are more valuable than their love for the children they lost. Otherwise you guys would not be insulting her.

    A logical person would have posted " You know what, I feel her pain, however I don't think she is going by this the right way"

    A emotional would have posted " She is a political whore being pimped by that socialist president Obama !!!!"

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And you need to venture outside of LA more.

    I live in a normal place that isn't morally or financially bankrupt, and we have a scoche of the gun-related violence you do.
    Be very careful judging what moral and what is not. Please don't go there.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And you need to venture outside of LA more.

    I live in a normal place that isn't morally or financially bankrupt, and we have a scoche of the gun-related violence you do.
    Texas? Surely you jest. Texas is the armpit of America.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Thank you.

    It is a rather ambitious goal. There's a quote I've read once and I think it's a great quote about ambitious goals:

    ""It is better, I think, to grab at the stars than to sit flustered because you know you cannot reach them...At least he who reaches will get a good stretch, a good view, and perhaps even a low-hanging apple for his efforts."

    This is just a random quote from a book, not written by anyone famous, but I think it's a great outlook on life.

    I'd like to think government legislation has already made us safer. For example, I'd first point you to government regulation of the food industry.

    But how did he get the gun? Too many people who should not be having guns are getting guns, because there is no real reason for straw buyers to not provide weapons.

    Everything I have heard says this is the case. However, I've also heard the mother legally obtained them by traveling to another state to purchase them, which is something that could not happen under a federal law.

    I'm not sure if that's true or not.


    As I said earlier, we'll never be able to completely end violence or murder. But the goal is to minimize the risk as much as possible. Those who want to purchase a gun can still do so, but it should help crack down on those who would acquire the guns for illegitimate purposes.
    Don't get me wrong--I am in favor of government regulations, as long as they are sensible and practical and do not infringe upon the rights of citizens. I wish the government would ENFORCE the regulations governing banks and oil companies and a host of other industries that have lately harmed the public good.

    I have no objection to background checks, but with the exception of possibly the Virginia Tech shooting, they would have had no impact on any of the high profile shootings in the last few years.

    I do object to regulations that prevent sales of any sort, including guns, between private citizens and consenting adults.

    My objection to most of the proposed 'gun regulations' is that they are merely wishful thinking. Good people, pretending that the historical record does not exist, hoping that there is some sort of magic wand that will bring us some sort of Utopia, whether it be regarding guns or drugs or a number of other things.

    There is certainly nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, but we must remember that the unintended consequences of government legislation more often than not greatly exceed the intended results. Usually the intended results are never achieved.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Be very careful judging what moral and what is not. Please don't go there.
    It is the most obvious thing in there is to judge. Some just don't want to look it in the face.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    I think the officer acted stupidly!!
    He could have just shot the guy and said he was brandishing his weapon and probably have gotten away with it. Since the piece implies that the guy was not being very compliant he is lucky to be alive.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Local Soldier Says Police Violated His Guns Rights - kcentv.com - KCEN HD - Waco, Temple, and Killeen





    Openly carrying, legally, committing no crime. Arrested, disarmed, weapon confiscated simply because he was carrying it.

    You guys are full of **** about open carry.
    I think you missed my point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    On the contrary, this is a perfect example of liberals at their pathetic worst.

    Never let a tragedy go to waste. Emotion, emotion, emotion. Get people to give up their rights when they feel bad. Take advantage of every tragedy to its fullest!!
    Yes...it's a good thing conservatives never do that...like the Patriot Act or starting wars in Iraq, for example...

    To claim this is a "liberal" thing is false. This is just part of politics. It's case of putting human faces on policies you believe better America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Don't get me wrong--I am in favor of government regulations, as long as they are sensible and practical and do not infringe upon the rights of citizens. I wish the government would ENFORCE the regulations governing banks and oil companies and a host of other industries that have lately harmed the public good.
    We agree on this.

    I have no objection to background checks, but with the exception of possibly the Virginia Tech shooting, they would have had no impact on any of the high profile shootings in the last few years.
    But that only refers to, as you said, the high profile ones. What about the thousands of other homicides?

    I do object to regulations that prevent sales of any sort, including guns, between private citizens and consenting adults.
    These would not prevent, merely make it tougher.

    My objection to most of the proposed 'gun regulations' is that they are merely wishful thinking. Good people, pretending that the historical record does not exist, hoping that there is some sort of magic wand that will bring us some sort of Utopia, whether it be regarding guns or drugs or a number of other things.
    I don't think anyone objectively or sanely thinks gun control will eliminate crime. The goal is to minimize the opportunity.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....of course "People are coming for your guns!!!!!!" Run.....Hide.... The hysterics of the wacko NRA/ right-wing agenda. The Country ain't buying it. This Country wants and demands reasonable restrictions. It is the NRA and the gun fanatics that are fighting even the most basic and reasonable restrictions that 90% of Americans favor. You guys are not doing your cause any favors with your hysterics and theatrics.
    I will tell you what is stupid tactically. YOu anti gun types make all sorts of crazy attacks on gun owners and instead of actually suggesting solutions to criminals with guns, you rant against gun owners and you demonstrate that what really motivates you is a hatred of the culture that values gun rights

    then you turn around and claim we are paranoid and all you want are reasonable restrictions when you have spewed hateful diatribe at law abiding gun owners.

    what is our agenda? we support punishing people who

    1) are criminals and use guns in crime

    2) straw purchasers

    3) illegal gun traffickers

    you might be better off actually PRETENDING to dislike criminals rather than clearly demonstrating that your real motivation is your disgust with the people you think mainly are the gun owning crowd-conservative Christian, straight white males who vote against welfare socialism, tax hikes and gay marriage



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