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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Seems some having been clamoring for monies in this fund.

    Sandy Hook Elementary School: Newtown, Connecticut fund to distribute $4 million

    Tell me again why these people get paid?
    They are rich and suburban, thus they suffer more from crime than the poor and urban folks do. What should be asked is why this private fund (now with an $11 million balance?) ever intended to do with it in the first place. It seems that the loss of the adults (bread winners?) must be weighed against the loss of mere dependent children, but all seem to agree that distributing money is the answer, if crime victims are from the correct social classes. Didn't some (WTC only?) of the 9/11/2001 victim's families get about $1.7 million each directly from the gov't? Perhaps that should be used as the example (precedent?).
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    I don't agree with gun control. I watched the video and do not doubt that the mother's concern is real. I am sure all these parents are well-intended, but I do not share their worldview, so I cannot support what they want.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    As much as I feel compassionate for her loss and other peoples' loss, it doesn't change the situation.

    I lost family too, as we all have at some point in our lives. Parents, siblings, etc, to natural deaths, disease or accidents. If you have a sibling die in a car accident what do you do? Go on a rant against cars? Go on a campaign to stop driving. You hold the person responsible for the accident accountable. That's what you do. And you don't impose your pain to dictate policy and rules over others. Why? Because there's just too much suffering in the world and if everybody who suffers loss of family due to something gets to make demands and impose doctrine upon others, we'll all be living in a tyranny.

    So lets be reasonable. Yes, the family has lost their child... and many others did too. But this grants her no special privilege, no special authority in the government or on a national scale. She is just a person and her suffering is limited to her experience and those who are her friends and who grieve with her. There is no reason for her suffering to be used as a tool to impose upon others.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    That's typical of Democrats and their dupes. They use an appeal to emotion rather than logic and reason.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here is Obama once again making sure this Gun Control issue will remain a fight. Devious on top of it too. Those on Standing for the Second need to get out and start speaking. It cannot be just the NRA or those with them. People need to get on the media as of 3 months ago. I mean really speaking out. Holding events and attacking Obama and the left for attempting to break the 2nd and get around the Constitution. Seems the Anti gunners are attempting to put the Pro Gun Advocates on the defensive.....in defending our Right. This can no longer be tolerated. Time to go on the offensive.

    This means going after Obama for exploiting children and tragedy. Contacting media and Radio and always putting that out there for Obama and the Left to hear, and to keep on hearing. This means attacking them on their attempt to break the Constitution and the 2nd. This means going after those Republicans that are playing defense and looking to compromise the Rights of the people. It also means going after the likes of Bloomberg and other Democrats that are playing that Fence game. The media personalities need to be put in check about playing on all reports of shootings. As they have gone over the edge with it. It can only be countered if people stand up for their Rights and get out there talking. Going after all I said here. We cannot allow people to impose their Rights over ours. Especially when they are the minority.

    In a message traditionally reserved for the president, Francine Wheeler, whose 6-year-old son Ben was among the 20 students and six educators killed at Sandy Hook Elementary last year, delivered the White House’s weekly address today, urging the country to come together to support measures that proponents say will alleviate gun violence.



    “As you’ve probably noticed, I’m not the president. I’m just a citizen. And as a citizen, I’m here at the White House today because I want to make a difference,” Wheeler said. ”I’ve heard people say that the tidal wave of anguish our country felt on 12/14 has receded. But not for us. To us, it feels as if it happened just yesterday.

    “And in the four months since we lost our loved ones, thousands of other Americans have died at the end of a gun. Thousands of other families across the United States are also drowning in our grief. Please help us do something before our tragedy becomes your tragedy.

    After President Obama delivered a speech on gun violence in Connecticut Monday, the Wheelers were among the 11 families who traveled with the president on Air Force One to lobby members of Congress in Washington.

    The Senate voted Thursday in favor of considering a comprehensive gun package, which includes a new bipartisan background check deal brokered by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa.

    The president tweeted out a message Friday urging Americans to listen to the Newtown mother’s message.

    “Francine Wheeler, a Newtown mom, will take my place in tomorrow’s Weekly Address. It’s a message everyone should hear: #NowIsTheTime. -bo,” the president tweeted from the White House account. The signature “-bo” indicates the tweet was written and sent from the president himself.

    Wheeler is the first civilian to deliver the White House’s weekly address

    Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address - ABC News
    Good Morning, MMC.

    Excellent post!

    Every mother that has lost a child understands her grief, myself included. This was a horrible tragedy, indeed, but guns cannot be blamed for this any more than you can blame a car that was driven by a drunk driver who caused a child's death.

    The mentally sick person who did this is at fault here, and we must not forget that! He killed his own mother first! We should mourn for her, also. To attempt to destroy our Constitution and Bill of Rights because of the acts of those who do not obey the law is wrong! Our efforts should instead be concentrated on getting the mentally ill among us the help they need, to ensure that this does not happen again!

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    your child's life for 15 minutes of fame....sick
    This seems to imply that the woman in question isn't acting out of conviction but rather due to selfish motives. There's a fine line between disagreeing with her policy endorsements and demeaning her personally.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    This seems to imply that the woman in question isn't acting out of conviction but rather due to selfish motives. There's a fine line between disagreeing with her policy endorsements and demeaning her personally.

    The woman should be mourning her loss, not allowing herself to be pimped. Obama can't bring her child back, but he can make sure other mothers go through a similiar experience she's going through...

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    This seems to imply that the woman in question isn't acting out of conviction but rather due to selfish motives. There's a fine line between disagreeing with her policy endorsements and demeaning her personally.
    Grieving parents often attempt to make their loss have 'meaning'. No disrespect to the parent. Cant imagine what she must be going through. The repugnant scumbag is not the mourning parent but rather the politician that gleefully exploits their grief to further ideological goals.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    The woman should be mourning her loss, not allowing herself to be pimped. Obama can't bring her child back, but he can make sure other mothers go through a similiar experience she's going through...
    In her way she IS mourning her loss. She isnt the problem.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    That's typical of Democrats and their dupes. They use an appeal to emotion rather than logic and reason.
    The script is familiar. You must pass health care legislation you havent bothered to read...for the children...

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