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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

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    That's why since we have established there is neither conservative nor liberal compassion, we need governmental assistance to those in need.
    That reasoning is silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't find background checks, something a reportedly high percentage of this country favors, to be an idiotic law.

    Only certain types.

    I'll never understand how owning an inanimate object at the possible expense of another's life is freedom. On this, we'll agree.
    I've said before background checks is the term used for a number different kinds of checking? It's in the details that matters, and I doubt you can prove what kind of check the public supports.
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    I've said before background checks is the term used for a number different kinds of checking? It's in the details that matters, and I doubt you can prove what kind of check the public supports.
    They favor the types of checks which will not allow dangerous people to have guns. I somehow doubt they care nearly as much how that is accomplished as they do that it is accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    They favor the types of checks which will not allow dangerous people to have guns. I somehow doubt they care nearly as much how that is accomplished as they do that it is accomplished.
    I highly doubt you will deter the members of MS-13 or other criminal gangs from getting firearms. Hell most them have better arms then a Army or Marine trooper, not to mention they have more than a few automatic firearms. Damned near everyone of the bastards have criminal records going back into their early teens. A lot of the firearms they have are or were banned at one point or are stolen. Their firearms are most certainly unlawful in Mexico and El Salvador were they hail from.
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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I highly doubt you will deter the members of MS-13 or other criminal gangs from getting firearms. Hell most them have better arms then a Army or Marine trooper, not to mention they have more than a few automatic firearms. Damned near everyone of the bastards have criminal records going back into their early teens. A lot of the firearms they have are or were banned at one point or are stolen. Their firearms are most certainly unlawful in Mexico and El Salvador were they hail from.
    Moreover the Feds already know that the Latin Kings are about getting Military Ordinance and Weapons.....as well as are working with the Cartels. So it's not like they are walking up to the counter and ordering a main course of Quarter pounders, grenades, while throwing in some M-72's for Dessert.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I highly doubt you will deter the members of MS-13 or other criminal gangs from getting firearms. Hell most them have better arms then a Army or Marine trooper, not to mention they have more than a few automatic firearms. Damned near everyone of the bastards have criminal records going back into their early teens. A lot of the firearms they have are or were banned at one point or are stolen. Their firearms are most certainly unlawful in Mexico and El Salvador were they hail from.
    And I highly doubt any firearm you can obtain legally is going to save you from a criminal gang with automatic firearms.

    Your statement really holds no relevance to what I said. A situation such as you described is not something which will be stopped by a private citizen purchasing a legal firearm, but rather a coordinated effort amongst city, state and federal law enforcement.

    Let's try and keep the discussion to the topic and not rely on extremes.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Disgusting. More disgusting than a lot of political theater I've seen. Just....wow. This one takes the cake. I'm at a bit of a loss, but this is one of the most brazen sick attempts to rape a tragedy for an individuals political agenda I've ever seen.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

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    While I am sure there is.....what difference does that make. 2 Wrongs don't make it Right. I wouldn't go for any Repubs using Children to further their own Personal gain. Course if those on the Right were to do so they would be lambasted 10times more than any Democrat would be.
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    because everyone picks on Republicans and Charlie Brown?
    Does Lucy pull the Football away 9 times out of ten?

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here is Obama once again making sure this Gun Control issue will remain a fight. Devious on top of it too. Those on Standing for the Second need to get out and start speaking. It cannot be just the NRA or those with them. People need to get on the media as of 3 months ago. I mean really speaking out. Holding events and attacking Obama and the left for attempting to break the 2nd and get around the Constitution. Seems the Anti gunners are attempting to put the Pro Gun Advocates on the defensive.....in defending our Right. This can no longer be tolerated. Time to go on the offensive.

    This means going after Obama for exploiting children and tragedy. Contacting media and Radio and always putting that out there for Obama and the Left to hear, and to keep on hearing. This means attacking them on their attempt to break the Constitution and the 2nd. This means going after those Republicans that are playing defense and looking to compromise the Rights of the people. It also means going after the likes of Bloomberg and other Democrats that are playing that Fence game. The media personalities need to be put in check about playing on all reports of shootings. As they have gone over the edge with it. It can only be countered if people stand up for their Rights and get out there talking. Going after all I said here. We cannot allow people to impose their Rights over ours. Especially when they are the minority.

    In a message traditionally reserved for the president, Francine Wheeler, whose 6-year-old son Ben was among the 20 students and six educators killed at Sandy Hook Elementary last year, delivered the White House’s weekly address today, urging the country to come together to support measures that proponents say will alleviate gun violence.



    “As you’ve probably noticed, I’m not the president. I’m just a citizen. And as a citizen, I’m here at the White House today because I want to make a difference,” Wheeler said. ”I’ve heard people say that the tidal wave of anguish our country felt on 12/14 has receded. But not for us. To us, it feels as if it happened just yesterday.

    “And in the four months since we lost our loved ones, thousands of other Americans have died at the end of a gun. Thousands of other families across the United States are also drowning in our grief. Please help us do something before our tragedy becomes your tragedy.

    After President Obama delivered a speech on gun violence in Connecticut Monday, the Wheelers were among the 11 families who traveled with the president on Air Force One to lobby members of Congress in Washington.

    The Senate voted Thursday in favor of considering a comprehensive gun package, which includes a new bipartisan background check deal brokered by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa.

    The president tweeted out a message Friday urging Americans to listen to the Newtown mother’s message.

    “Francine Wheeler, a Newtown mom, will take my place in tomorrow’s Weekly Address. It’s a message everyone should hear: #NowIsTheTime. -bo,” the president tweeted from the White House account. The signature “-bo” indicates the tweet was written and sent from the president himself.

    Wheeler is the first civilian to deliver the White House’s weekly address

    Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address - ABC News
    This event demonstrates the very same thing that the carrying of the "Newtown Victims" in Air Force 1 did--the complete politization of this (likely) staged event at Newtown. The politicians are playing it for all it's worth. Disgusting, IMO

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