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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    The same day we realized the people who wrote the constitution were racist,sexist, slave owning hicks who never intended gun rights for everyone. Also some of us recognize the constitution was never a perfect document incapable of being wrong. Sorry, but blind faith is stupid when you do it for a religion, or when you do it for a document like the constitution written by fallible and greedy men.
    that's a silly argument

    the proper argument is to say that gun rights should be for everyone, not just the white males your pretend were the only beneficiaries of the constitution.

    not to eliminate them for everyone because you want to punish white conservative males for reasons we cannot possibly fathom due to their obvious irrationality



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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Not really. It allowed me to mostly ignore what you wrote.

    I'm not now, nor was I when you responded to my question towards VanceMack.

    Rarely do I go barging into a thread to accuse people of lying.

    I did not use the word failed. In fact, I said that I was afraid you misunderstood, at which point I went on to try and clarify.

    No, I post exactly what I mean. But you do not follow what I mean. Whether that's my fault for not explaining it better and/or in more detail, or your fault for simply not understanding what I consider to be a simple statement, either way I meant what I said. I cannot completely control what you interpret from what I say.

    Again with the attack. Could you please calm down?

    I've never once did such a thing. Again you're resorting to personal attacks due to a simple misunderstanding.

    I have never done anything else. And yes, accusing me of posting dishonestly is attacking my integrity. That is an insult.

    Let me see if I have this correct. You interject yourself into a question I ask of another, answering the question you mistakenly thought I asked, and yet, when I clarify what I truly asked and assume you have an interest in the question due to your previous interjection, I'm the dishonest one? That does not make sense at all.


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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she being used to ramrod idiotic laws through by an appeal to sickening emotion is wrong
    I don't find background checks, something a reportedly high percentage of this country favors, to be an idiotic law.

    you like what Obama is doing because you are a gun banner.
    Only certain types.

    You will never understand freedom
    I'll never understand how owning an inanimate object at the possible expense of another's life is freedom. On this, we'll agree.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't find background checks, something a reportedly high percentage of this country favors, to be an idiotic law.

    Only certain types.

    I'll never understand how owning an inanimate object at the possible expense of another's life is freedom. On this, we'll agree.
    that's because you don't understand how things work

    and you don't understand freedom



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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's because you don't understand how things work
    What things?

    and you don't understand freedom
    Freedom is about far more than owning guns.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    What things?

    Freedom is about far more than owning guns.
    true, and you want to rape one major freedom for what

    1) because those who own guns tend not buy into your agenda

    2) you don't like conservatives

    3) you don't like people who believe self defense should not be outsourced to the government

    4) the teachers' unions hate the NRA since the NRA supports the GOP



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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, and you want to rape one major freedom for what
    First of all, there is no rape. For you to equate things like background checks to possibly the worst offense one person can inflict on another seems silly to me. Furthermore, even if we use your word, your rights to own a gun are not being raped. They are simply having more obstacles put in front of them.

    1) because those who own guns tend not buy into your agenda
    Again, a reportedly high number of Americans like the idea of background checks.

    2) you don't like conservatives
    I have no problem with conservatives. I have a problem with political extremists.

    4) the teachers' unions hate the NRA since the NRA supports the GOP
    I literally have no idea what this is supposed to mean. What do teacher unions have to do with an organiziation who now exists primarily to make gun manufacturers money?

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    First of all, there is no rape. For you to equate things like background checks to possibly the worst offense one person can inflict on another seems silly to me. Furthermore, even if we use your word, your rights to own a gun are not being raped. They are simply having more obstacles put in front of them.

    Again, a reportedly high number of Americans like the idea of background checks.

    I have no problem with conservatives. I have a problem with political extremists.


    I literally have no idea what this is supposed to mean. What do teacher unions have to do with an organiziation who now exists primarily to make gun manufacturers money?
    1) one of your fellow travelers think rape is far less worse than murder

    2) lots of people are clueless-appealing to the masses means nothing to me

    3) supporting gun rights is not extreme to anyone who understands the constitution

    to extreme gun haters I suspect supporting the second amendment is extreme



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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) one of your fellow travelers think rape is far less worse than murder
    Well, I'm not them, and I think it's a tough call. On one hand, you are no longer living and on the other you are. Sometimes not living is easier than living.

    2) lots of people are clueless-appealing to the masses means nothing to me
    But that is irrelevant to what you said. You suggested I want to "rape" gun rights because gun owners tend to not agree with me on things like background checks. I was just pointing out that your statement didn't make much sense considering the large number of people, something like 70% of NRA members I believe I've read, who support background checks.

    3) supporting gun rights is not extreme to anyone who understands the constitution
    Supporting unabashed rights to any weapon you want, however, does seem extreme to me.

    to extreme gun haters I suspect supporting the second amendment is extreme
    Possibly, but I'm not one, so I don't know why you brought it, or the teacher's unions, up.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Well, I'm not them, and I think it's a tough call. On one hand, you are no longer living and on the other you are. Sometimes not living is easier than living.

    But that is irrelevant to what you said. You suggested I want to "rape" gun rights because gun owners tend to not agree with me on things like background checks. I was just pointing out that your statement didn't make much sense considering the large number of people, something like 70% of NRA members I believe I've read, who support background checks.

    Supporting unabashed rights to any weapon you want, however, does seem extreme to me.

    Possibly, but I'm not one, so I don't know why you brought it, or the teacher's unions, up.
    I don't think anyone who has read your posts believe that a silly UBGC is the only additional restrictions you support



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