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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Really? Should we invade ourselves because we've had multiple mass shootings from Americans? There is something to be said for diplomacy when diplomacy is viable. Do you think diplomacy was viable with Iraq? Saudi Arabia isn't a perfect ally, but they are an ally. Iraq was never an ally.
    Oh my. You're cool with going to war with a regime that had nothing to do with the planning or execution of 9/11.

    But, since they are our "ally," you can look the other way with a regime that housed 15 of the perpetrators.

    You bought the lie in '03, as did I, but cannot let go of it as I have.

    We must be wise enough to learn from these mistakes.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Oh my. You're cool with going to war with a regime that had nothing to do with the planning or execution of 9/11.

    But, since they are our "ally," you can look the other way with a regime that housed 15 of the perpetrators.
    Do you have any proof that SA knew of these terrorists and their plot and did nothing to stop them or advise us?

    You bought the lie in '03, as did I, but cannot let go of it as I have.

    We must be wise enough to learn from these mistakes.
    You are using hind sight when I was talking about point of time. You said you believed in the information at the time.

    My point was and is, it is wrong to usurp the rights of the innocent but it is not analogous to invading a foreign country for attacking your country (good or bad info not withstanding).
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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...but your sense of moral outrage apparently fluctuates based on your stance on 'the cause'.
    or, my choosing whether or not to express that moral outrage is....

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Oh my. You're cool with going to war with a regime that had nothing to do with the planning or execution of 9/11.

    But, since they are our "ally," you can look the other way with a regime that housed 15 of the perpetrators.

    You bought the lie in '03, as did I, but cannot let go of it as I have.

    We must be wise enough to learn from these mistakes.
    Obviously, we didn't attack Saudi Arabia, as doing so would have brought our economy tumbling down on our heads when the oil supply was cut off ,and would have done the same thing in Western Europe and other places as well. If you think the economy is in the doldrums now, you're right, but just imagine were it would be had we attacked Saudi Arabia! Invading Iraq, on the other hand, was supposed to see US troops greeted as liberators and a modern democracy established in Iraq, as well as an America grateful that the terrorist attack had been avenged and Al Qaeda defeated. What a fantasy!
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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's not fair, not fair at all. This is a bereaved parent who is being exploited.

    I agree, so where is the support system for her to prevent this? Where are the "do-gooders", the pontificators, the compassionates?

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Do you have any proof that SA knew of these terrorists and their plot and did nothing to stop them or advise us?
    I have the same level of proof you and the Bush administration have that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11.

    That is to say, no proof whatsoever.

    To send 100,000 troops into a country with legitimate cause, no proof is simply a joke. Fabricated proof is borderline criminal.

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator
    You are using hind sight when I was talking about point of time. You said you believed in the information at the time.
    Of course, I was deliberately misled by our president. My conservative lean does not preclude accepting this reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator
    My point was and is, it is wrong to usurp the rights of the innocent but it is not analogous to invading a foreign country for attacking your country (good or bad info not withstanding).
    We weren't attacked by Iraq. Please stop buying the lie. My initial analogy was a hypothetical to indicate how Obama is exploiting the parent's tragedy to push his political agenda. Though strained, I feel the analogy was apt on a fundamental level.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    I have the same level of proof you and the Bush administration have that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11.

    That is to say, no proof whatsoever.

    To send 100,000 troops into a country with legitimate cause, no proof is simply a joke. Fabricated proof is borderline criminal.



    Of course, I was deliberately misled by our president. My conservative lean does not preclude accepting this reality.



    We weren't attacked by Iraq. Please stop buying the lie. My initial analogy was a hypothetical to indicate how Obama is exploiting the parent's tragedy to push his political agenda. Though strained, I feel the analogy was apt on a fundamental level.
    You aren't getting the point. I'm tired of trying to explain it. Iraq, Sadi Arabia...not the point.
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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    And what does abortion have to do with the Sandy Hook Massacre?
    Both involve the death of children.

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I wouldn't call it scrutiny I would call it disdain on the border of hatred but I mean how dare this women who lost her child in a shooting massacre do something she see's as constructive with her grief. Its interesting though how yourself and many other posters like to make out that she is being dragged into the public eye. Any links or facts to back up the assumption that the Obama administration is forcing her into this?
    Do you think she called Obama to see if she could make an address to the nation?

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    re: Mother of Sandy Hook Victim Delivers White House Weekly Address.....[W322]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both involve the death of children.
    Apples and oranges. One is protected by law; the other one is murder. BTW, everyone doesn't agree that abortion involves the murder of children.

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