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    Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Fine, show me the law that says you are "required" to take advantage of every deduction "permitted" by our tax laws. I won't hold my breath waiting.
    You aren't required to own a gun, therefore any people who don't own guns but are against gun control tightening are hypocrites?
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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You aren't required to own a gun, therefore any people who don't own guns but are against gun control tightening are hypocrites?
    They would be hypocrites if they were for required background checks at gun shows but then bought a gun at a gun show with no background checks.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama says the rich don't pay enough tax then does everything possible to pay as little as possible, if that is not hypocrisy I don't know what is. He should have practiced what he preaches, took no deductions and paid more taxes.
    At no point has he ever preached for the wealthy to not use deductibles. And he has argued for higher taxes, which in turn would raise his taxes. He would only be a hypocrite if he was arguing that everyone except him needs to pay higher. You have no idea what you're talking about.

    And also, he didn't do "everything possible" to pay as little as possible. He took completely standard exemptions (for ****s sake, you are bitching in your post about him deducting the mortgage on his house, which every home owner that pays interest on their house does). As far as I know, he didn't stash a wad of money in a tax haven some where.

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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    If someone says "Abortions should be illegal!", but they themself just had an abortion, is that hypocrisy?
    Only if they are arguing that it should be illegal because of religious or moral reasons, because then you are pushing morals on to others while not practicing it yourself. Obama isn't pushing for higher taxes based on religion or morality, he's doing it because it makes sense and we need more revenue in this country and that's one of the least painful ways that he can think of. If he were to pay slightly higher taxes by not taking any deductions, it would do the country absolutely no good. If everyone paid a little bit more, it makes a difference.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    At no point has he ever preached for the wealthy to not use deductibles. And he has argued for higher taxes, which in turn would raise his taxes. He would only be a hypocrite if he was arguing that everyone except him needs to pay higher. You have no idea what you're talking about.

    And also, he didn't do "everything possible" to pay as little as possible. He took completely standard exemptions (for ****s sake, you are bitching in your post about him deducting the mortgage on his house, which every home owner that pays interest on their house does). As far as I know, he didn't stash a wad of money in a tax haven some where.

    Get over your false outrage.
    "During each year that he has been president, Mr. Obama has proposed clipping the mortgage interest deduction for taxpayers in the top two tax brackets. The proposal hasn’t gone anywhere.

    Under that proposal, households that currently pay income taxes at the 33% and 35% rates would only be able to claim deductions at the 28% rate. In other words, for every $1,000 in deductions, a household would realize a tax savings of $280 instead of $350."

    President Obama Weighs In on Mortgage-Interest Deduction - Developments - WSJ

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    "During each year that he has been president, Mr. Obama has proposed clipping the mortgage interest deduction for taxpayers in the top two tax brackets. The proposal hasn’t gone anywhere.

    Under that proposal, households that currently pay income taxes at the 33% and 35% rates would only be able to claim deductions at the 28% rate. In other words, for every $1,000 in deductions, a household would realize a tax savings of $280 instead of $350."

    President Obama Weighs In on Mortgage-Interest Deduction - Developments - WSJ
    Again, he has argued for that change, which would make him pay more on his taxes. That doesn't mean that he has to begin paying higher taxes now. Because it wouldn't do any good. Any my argument for bringing up mortgage interest deductions is to show that he is taking completely normal deductions, your source does nothing to argue with my point, other than to say that he thinks it should be changed slightly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Why did Obama claim those evil loopholes called deductions? Why is he taking any deduction at all? He ought to pay his fair share. Children and seniors are starving because he claimed deductions.
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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why did Obama claim those evil loopholes called deductions? Why is he taking any deduction at all? He ought to pay his fair share. Children and seniors are starving because he claimed deductions.

    Funny that - I see that the President donated one fourth of his income to charity. $100,000 to a group that provide aid to veterans.


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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why did Obama claim those evil loopholes called deductions? Why is he taking any deduction at all? He ought to pay his fair share. Children and seniors are starving because he claimed deductions.
    Did you take any deductions?

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