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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    He didn't say that people should pay more taxes, and he's not our leader.
    That's exactly what he said, that the Obamas should not have hired high priced attorneys in order to have taken less deductions, which would result in more taxes. Not sure what being a leader has to do with staying within the law. Are those that make the laws obligated to go above and beyond?

    Once again, if you believe that there should be less deductions, you are not obligated to take the allowable deductions.

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    Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    That's exactly what he said, that the Obamas should not have hired high priced attorneys in order to have taken less deductions, which would result in more taxes. Not sure what being a leader has to do with staying within the law. Are those that make the laws obligated to go above and beyond?

    Once again, if you believe that there should be less deductions, you are not obligated to take the allowable deductions.
    No, he said that they didn't have to hire high priced attorneys and take deductions. Obama believes that wealthy people, of which he is one, should pay more in taxes. It is not required by law that he takes any tax deductions. If he is serious about wealthy people paying more in taxes, then he should lead by example and not take those deductions.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But if that's what he wants, then he should lead by example. Show people that he's serious.
    And he is doing exactly that, paying what he is legally obligated to do. Why is this complicated to you?
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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm with you on this one. This is the same argument people had with Buffett. He called people's attention to how little a percentage he paid in taxes and people thought he should just go ahead and pay them.

    And, good Lord! Look what they did to Romney. Same idea.

    The law is the law. If the deductions and tax treatments are available for one, they're available for all. No one should be expected to pay more than they have to. That's just not how the system works.
    Interestingly, I never made an issue of Romney's taxes either. People on both sides use faulty logic to try and smear those they are opposed to, since it is easier than actually discussing the pros and cons of an issue.

    Odd how we every so often end up lining up on something, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And he is doing exactly that, paying what he is legally obligated to do. Why is this complicated to you?
    He's not paying more, like he wants others to. He's taking all of the tax breaks and deductions when he doesn't legally have to. He should lead by example. Why is this so complicated to you?

    I don't begrudge Obama taking all legal tax deductions, but he should quit telling people that they should pay more taxes if he's going to do so.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    He's not paying more, like he wants others to. He's taking all of the tax breaks and deductions when he doesn't legally have to. He should lead by example. Why is this so complicated to you?
    He is not advocating for people to pay more than they are legally obligated to. If he was advocating for people to pay more than they are obligated, then it would be hypocrisy. That is not what is happening here.
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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Then, since this is your idea, am I correct in assuming that you did not take the child deduction, the mortgage interest deduction, the mileage deduction the charitable deduction? Or are yoiu intending to file an amended return?
    I'm not advocating for others to "pay their fair share"; he is...
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    Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He is not advocating for people to pay more than they are legally obligated to. If he was advocating for people to pay more than they are obligated, then it would be hypocrisy. That is not what is happening here.
    But he IS taking all of the available tax deductions when he's not legally obligated to, while saying that people of his ilk should pay more taxes. Maybe that's not hypocrisy, but it is poor leadership.
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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    No, he said that they didn't have to hire high priced attorneys and take deductions. Obama believes that wealthy people, of which he is one, should pay more in taxes. It is not required by law that he takes any tax deductions. If he is serious about wealthy people paying more in taxes, then he should lead by example and not take those deductions.
    And my position is that if you do not think legal deductions should be taken, then feel free to start the ball rolling.

    I take all I can get, Obama is entitled to do the same. I am not an Obama fan, but I would think even less of his ability to lead if he did not take what is his to take.

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    Re: Obama, first lady release 2012 tax returns

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    And my position is that if you do not think legal deductions should be taken, then feel free to start the ball rolling.

    I take all I can get, Obama is entitled to do the same. I am not an Obama fan, but I would think even less of his ability to lead if he did not take what is his to take.
    We are of opposite thinking on this then. I agree to disagree.

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