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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The less it rains the higher the concentrations of the stuff they're complaining about actually get into the watershed when it does rain. So they're taxing that which they should pray for more of, causing higher taxes. So, rather than take action to reduce the pollutants, they're taxing the natural means of abatement. All of us should pray it rains like hell in MD.
    Lets do something about the pollutants getting into the water? Rain causes it to wash into the water supply. Oh? Let's tax rain! I swear liberals remind me of myself when I was five.

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    This story reminds me of friend of mine who bought and lived in a house outside the city limits who used a well for his water. A few years later the city expanded their borders so that his home was now within the cities limits. The city came out and put a meter on his well and started taxing him on water usage. Their excuse was his water even tho it was in a private well was part of the greater watershed that the city was now responsible for so he had to pay his taxes on that water. It just seemed absurd to me they should at least grandfathered wells or something.

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That still sounds pretty stupid. There really isn't a way to explain the tax.
    I just did.

    and get away from the fact that the tax idea exists which by itself is stupid.
    Only if you don't understand how pollution works.

    Btw, some of us don't agree pigovian taxes since they are by their very nature social engineering.
    No, the point of Pigouvian taxes is to offset negative externalities that aren't resolved by the market, of which pollution is a prime example. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

    You can disagree with how a specific Pigouvian tax is implemented, or you can disagree with the necessity of a specific tax, but saying "I don't agree with the idea of Pigouvian taxes in general" means you are either ignorant or a blind market fundamentalist.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Gotta love all the right-wing knee jerk reactions. If you actually read the link, it states the rationale for the tax - essentially the purpose is to raise funds to comply with an EPA directive to clean up the Chesapeake Bay, which, for those people who have never been to Maryland, is rather polluted and at the same time many residents are dependent on this body of water for their livelihoods. It's not the rain itself that's the problem, it's the surface runoff that results in pollution and erosion. This is exactly how Pigouvian taxes are supposed to work.

    I'm sure my state government does a lot of dumb **** (assault weapons ban being one example) but this is not one of them. Take time to read and understand a topic before you start spewing bull**** "hurr durr they just be taxing people cuz it rains durrrr"
    That is exactly what we thought and exactly WHY its stupid.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I just did.
    You explained it alright, but it still came out sounding stupid.

    Only if you don't understand how pollution works.
    So let's tax rain!

    No, the point of Pigouvian taxes is to offset negative externalities that aren't resolved by the market, of which pollution is a prime example. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
    I understand it fine and I like it or not I made no mistake. You just support the government engineering the market and society as a whole to it's own desires by taxing people.

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    "Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains"

    Now I am praying fervently that our fair state of Washington, and our illustrious city of Seattle don't get any ideas... (And I am an atheist!)

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yeah, I am a huge fan of Maryland steamed crab....Nothing better on a summer party day than sitting around a good table full of crabs, cooler of Ice cold Beer at arms length, and a roll of paper towel handy....Good times.



    Well, I lived in Harford county...Not bad for a conservative, but overall just too expensive....The house I bought in SC for $200K would have been $500K in Maryland...Plus, in SC where I live, I am still about 4 hours from the ocean at Myrtle Beach, and I now have the mountains and lakes within a 45 min drive, so a plus....I would love to build a Maryland style crab shack here in the Greenville area, with all the transplants, I am sure it would be a money maker.
    Well, now you've done it! I'm suddenly hungry for steamed crab! Darn you anyway, cause I live in NE Ohio, and it just doesn't taste the same here, even with the beer and paper towels thrown in...although that certainly doesn't hurt! :

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Just when I thought this state couldn't get any more stupid...
    They haven't even come close to how stupid they can be but with MOM in charge they are getting a good head of steam for the run towards it!
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I just did.



    Only if you don't understand how pollution works.



    No, the point of Pigouvian taxes is to offset negative externalities that aren't resolved by the market, of which pollution is a prime example. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

    You can disagree with how a specific Pigouvian tax is implemented, or you can disagree with the necessity of a specific tax, but saying "I don't agree with the idea of Pigouvian taxes in general" means you are either ignorant or a blind market fundamentalist.
    Still treating the symptoms, and not the problem itself. Are you saying that we can't stop such pollution? Yes, you are, and that is false. We can. But, let's just tax the rain instead? Either you are ignorant, or a blind social engineer attempting to control something you yourself claim can't be controlled.

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Only if you don't understand how pollution works.
    So tell me, how much 'rain pollution' does the guy living in a second floor condo generate?
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