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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    And yet none of the Eastern Shore counties are effected by the law. Great idea, taxing people in the Catoctin mountains for nitrogen and phosphate run off while leving the million chicken a year ranch next to the Miles River alone.
    True and that COULD show the power of the argibusiness sector vs the urban sector when it comes to exemptions. I don't know about the Eastern Shore agricultural practices of today, DO know out here we have curtailed large chemical and fertilizer outlays. We still trail the towns and cities, well WE call them cities, in chemical and fertilizer run-off.

    Would be interesting to know the farmland vs suburban run-off comparison.

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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    True and that COULD show the power of the argibusiness sector vs the urban sector when it comes to exemptions. I don't know about the Eastern Shore agricultural practices of today, DO know out here we have curtailed large chemical and fertilizer outlays. We still trail the towns and cities, well WE call them cities, in chemical and fertilizer run-off.

    Would be interesting to know the farmland vs suburban run-off comparison.
    The whole thing makes no sense as the counties where the tax is being put on are based on population alone, as if having more people living in an area means more nitrogen and phosphate are put in the ground. There is virtually no un-pearmeable surfaces in Baltimore City outside a few parks. Most lawns are so small that it takes you longer to walk from the front yard to the back yard than it takes to cut either. The number of people in Baltimore City that would even consider fertilizing their lawns is miniscule. There are no farms in Baltimore City. There is no agriculture. Yet the people and businesses will be taxed to try and reduce it run off that is mostly generated by farms. On the Eastern shore and St. Mary's country there is a LOT of agriculture very close to the Bay and the rivers that feed it yet they are not taxed. You either have to be a Maryland politician or a special kind of screw ball to think this will have any impact on the Bay.

    Now if the tax was to reduce TRASH run off it might make some sense to tax Baltimore City as much more of that is generated than in the Eastern Shore counties and it does run into the harbor which runs into the Bay but that's not the purpose of the tax becasue it wouldn't require as much money to implement. This tax is estimated to generate $14 billion by 2025, about 1/2 billion a year, assuming it is not increased like the Flush Tax recently was. It will be collected and wasted just like every other program in the past 40 years that was suppose to Save the Bay.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The title or the article is borderline retarded. They aren't taxing people "when it rains" as in you get taxed per the amount of water it rained on your property, they are taxing people based on the size of their property, and structures on the property in order to finance improved drainage.

    Exactly where do people think governments get the money for improving drainage?
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Well except for the roads and driveways which is more area than all the roofs and driveways in the effected counties. But those farms in Baltimore City, they have to PAY for all the run off they create!
    Roads are owned by the govt, and taxing the govt has already been shown to be absurd. And driveways makes up a small part of the total.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Roads are owned by the govt, and taxing the govt has already been shown to be absurd.
    So is taxing people for the size of their roof, driveway and patio but just because it's absurd it doesn't stop people from defending it.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    So is taxing people for the size of their roof, driveway and patio but just because it's absurd it doesn't stop people from defending it.
    The reasons for the tax have already been posted
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The reasons for the tax have already been posted
    Which doesn't make the tax any less absurd.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Which doesn't make the tax any less absurd.
    Only for those who can't, or don't want, to understand the reasoning
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Only for those who can't, or don't want, to understand the reasoning
    That would be you.

    The reasoning is faulty but keep on believing it's a good idea. Maybe your State will implement it too. All those farm in Manhatten sure are causing nitorgen and phosphate run off I'm sure. since the Susquahanna starts in NY and ends in the Bay perhaps you should volunteeer to do your part to Save the Bay too. I'm sure MOM won't turn down a check from you.
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    Re: Maryland decides to tax residents when it rains

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    That would be you.

    The reasoning is faulty but keep on believing it's a good idea. Maybe your State will implement it too. All those farm in Manhatten sure are causing nitorgen and phosphate run off I'm sure. since the Susquahanna starts in NY and ends in the Bay perhaps you should volunteeer to do your part to Save the Bay too. I'm sure MOM won't turn down a check from you.
    Actually, my state has been taking action to clean up its' waterways for several decades now. Contrary to your delusions, the govt has done a lot to keep our waterways clean.
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