Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 63

Thread: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

  1. #1
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    23,354

    Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Washington (CNN) - The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to overcome a Republican-led filibuster against tougher gun laws, clearing the way for a major congressional debate on a package of proposals sought by President Barack Obama in the aftermath of the Connecticut school massacre.

    The procedural vote followed a breakthrough by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, and Pat Toomey, R-Pennsylvania, on broadening background checks to include private purchases at gun shows and on the Internet.
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.

  2. #2
    Sage
    blackjack50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:00 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,274

    Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    Eye roll**

    The "people" are a bunch of emotional children.
    The Crowd is not the sum of its parts.

  3. #3
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:18 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,552

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    Yep. Wait and see if demorats from red states are all onboard the national gun registration train.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  4. #4
    Only Losers H8 Capitalism
    Spartacus FPV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In your echo chamber
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    12,888

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    Revel in your confidence now, 1996 and 2000 will happen again. Your lot are foolish for ignoring the warning of Bill Clinton.

    But please, celebrate the fight against our rights more and may posterity forget you were our countryman.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

  5. #5
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,725

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Eye roll**

    The "people" are a bunch of emotional children.
    I think our gun laws do need to be discussed, and here is how I would like to see it turn out:

    1) Limiting availability of certain types of weapons? NO!! Whatever guns are made illegal, it won't stop the criminals from continuing to obtain them. So why shouldn't law abiding Americans have the same access to them, LEGALLY? Therefore, I am against any form of gun control. I do not see what the problem is with those who call themselves Liberal here.

    2) Background checks - YES!! After all, we do want to make it harder for crazies and criminals to obtain guns, and provide very stiff penalties to those who obtain guns illegally. I am very much in favor of background checks. Does this stance go along with the Second Amendment? Of course it does. Criminals and insane people do not have Second Amendment rights. It's very much like the states who take away voting rights of criminals. Felons, especially violent felons, should not be allowed to own firearms. Period. I don't see what the problem is with people who call themselves Conservative here.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  6. #6
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    23,354

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Eye roll**

    The "people" are a bunch of emotional children.
    I'm afraid the emotional children are all on the gun side. Going ballistic because you might need a background check if you buy guns on the internet or at gun shows is pretty infantile I fact. Use you head about this one for a change.

  7. #7
    Electrician
    Bob Blaylock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    North 38°28′ West 121°26′
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 01:33 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,745

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Criminals and insane people do not have Second Amendment rights.
    Where, in the Constitution, is there any language which allows government any authority to pick and choose who is or is not entitled to any of the rights affirmed in the Bill of Rights?


    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It's very much like the states who take away voting rights of criminals. Felons, especially violent felons, should not be allowed to own firearms. Period. I don't see what the problem is with people who call themselves Conservative here.
    The problem is that government has proven that any power that we allow it to claim to selectively discriminate against any of us by denying us any of our basic Constitutional rights will be outrageously abused. The power that you allow it now to broadly discriminate against “criminals” or the “insane” without requiring proper due process in each individual case will be expanded, eventually. to include you and me under these terms.

    Those who are truly too dangerous to be allowed their rights need to be kept in prisons, mental hospitals, or other appropriate institutions. This is the only way to prevent them from harming or endangering others. Anything else only endangers everyone's freedom, for only a false illusion of safety.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

  8. #8
    User
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    07-20-13 @ 08:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    24

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think our gun laws do need to be discussed, and here is how I would like to see it turn out:

    1) Limiting availability of certain types of weapons? NO!! Whatever guns are made illegal, it won't stop the criminals from continuing to obtain them. So why shouldn't law abiding Americans have the same access to them, LEGALLY? Therefore, I am against any form of gun control. I do not see what the problem is with those who call themselves Liberal here.

    2) Background checks - YES!! After all, we do want to make it harder for crazies and criminals to obtain guns, and provide very stiff penalties to those who obtain guns illegally. I am very much in favor of background checks. Does this stance go along with the Second Amendment? Of course it does. Criminals and insane people do not have Second Amendment rights. It's very much like the states who take away voting rights of criminals. Felons, especially violent felons, should not be allowed to own firearms. Period. I don't see what the problem is with people who call themselves Conservative here.
    This is pretty much how i feel (except there are certain firearms that the public shouldn't have access to-i.e rocket launchers) the only trouble is determining what makes a person "insane" or "crazy". In psychology there is no definition for insane or crazy, so the first thing to be discussed is finding an objective definition for insane. The next thing to be discussed is how to determine if a person meets that definition when conducting a background check; disorders such as schizophrenia, that would probably fall under the definition of insane, could go for decades without being discovered in a person. So for most incidences of an "insane" person going on a shooting spree, no one could have predicted that they were insane until the incident happens.

    Its pretty complex, probably why congress and the senate haven't tried to discuss it yet.

  9. #9
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-04-17 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    12,361

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    Signifcant gun legislation happened in 1964. This is just theater. It won't pass the House anyway.

  10. #10
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-04-17 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    12,361

    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    We have background checks now. You can't leave a gun store with your gun without permission of the ATF. The ATF can do whatever checks it wants to do without any new laws.

Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •