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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another lie-its not a bypass.
    Are the "private" gun dealers who advertise on gun buyer sites, required to run a background check like the FFL dealers are? If not, then it is a bypass that this bill would address.
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    From the people? The "people" don't want stricter gun laws.

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Oceandan View Post
    We have background checks now. Care to proffer an estimation on how many "criminals" or those with "criminal intent" would undergo a "background check"??? Again, please explain to me how "background" checks will do a SINGLE thing to prevent crime? I don't see why someone who takes a self label of "conservative" would regurgitate inane asinine liberal "talking points".
    No - We do NOT have background checks at gun shows, or sales on the internet. This bill would close both of those loopholes. As for your idiotic ad hom attack, this thread is not about me.
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are the "private" gun dealers who advertise on gun buyer sites, required to run a background check like the FFL dealers are? If not, then it is a bypass that this bill would address.
    for over 200 years no one had to do a check. In 1993 congress decided only those engaged in INTERSTATE Commerce could be complied to do that.

    its like requiring those who engage in commercial driving to have a CDL. No one with half a brain says us drivers who drive family cars-even if my niece gets 5 dollars a day driving another kid to the same school, is operating under the CDL "loophole" or that she has engaged in "bypassing" the CDL requirement



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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No - We do NOT have background checks at gun shows, or sales on the internet. This bill would close both of those loopholes. As for your idiotic ad hom attack, this thread is not about me.
    wrong again-the sales of guns is the same no matter if it is at a Gun show, on the "internet" or at a K of C meeting hall

    those engaged in interstate commerce and operating as dealers have to do the check

    if you are engaged in commercial gun sales and don't have an FFL you violate the US Code



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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think our gun laws do need to be discussed, and here is how I would like to see it turn out:

    1) Limiting availability of certain types of weapons? NO!! Whatever guns are made illegal, it won't stop the criminals from continuing to obtain them. So why shouldn't law abiding Americans have the same access to them, LEGALLY? Therefore, I am against any form of gun control. I do not see what the problem is with those who call themselves Liberal here.

    2) Background checks - YES!! After all, we do want to make it harder for crazies and criminals to obtain guns, and provide very stiff penalties to those who obtain guns illegally. I am very much in favor of background checks. Does this stance go along with the Second Amendment? Of course it does. Criminals and insane people do not have Second Amendment rights. It's very much like the states who take away voting rights of criminals. Felons, especially violent felons, should not be allowed to own firearms. Period. I don't see what the problem is with people who call themselves Conservative here.
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

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    They fight against my rights and my opposition is merely mean? Obviously I've not been mean enough.



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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Here's how it works:

    A Private gun dealer knows that he can advertise guns on sites like Armslist and other internet sites for gun buyers and bypass the requirement of FFL dealers to perform a background check. So all this "private" dealer has to do is arrange for him or someone to meet the buyer and exchange a gun for cash, no questions asked.
    Like they all didn't know that.
    It's just like Rand Paul telling black history students that the NAACP was started by Republicans. They think they are being smart and come off as ignorant hicks. I have nothing against them except when they try to be "smart".

    I'de really like to do something about the fellas that come down here to Fl. and load their trunks up with guns and sell them in every major city in the North but no..... that's too big a market I guess.
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong again-the sales of guns is the same no matter if it is at a Gun show, on the "internet" or at a K of C meeting hall

    those engaged in interstate commerce and operating as dealers have to do the check

    if you are engaged in commercial gun sales and don't have an FFL you violate the US Code
    And this distinction is WHY?
    I don't get it...sometimes a criminal can buy a gun and sometimes he can't? Sometimes an insane person can do the same?
    Are we at "The Mad Tea Party" or something?

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong again-the sales of guns is the same no matter if it is at a Gun show, on the "internet" or at a K of C meeting hall

    those engaged in interstate commerce and operating as dealers have to do the check

    if you are engaged in commercial gun sales and don't have an FFL you violate the US Code
    Actually, you are wrong on that point. I know from real life. I got my .25 Beretta at the gun show held at the George Brown Convention Center, right here in Houston. Here's the deal. Gun dealers do need to do the background checks at gun shows. Individuals do not.

    Note: I would like to see background checks strictly enforced. However, if that comes at the expense of banning certain weapons, then I am not in favor of this bill.
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