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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In state sales. No background check. No shipping. No dealer involved
    Yep, just like buying one from your local liberal newspaper classifieds.

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    How background checks might be used for internet sales by private sellers:



    Gun sales without background check easy on Internet, mayors group says

    "The Internet has become a convenient marketplace for illegal gun sales.

    That's the conclusion of an undercover investigation commissioned by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office into online gun sales on 10 websites in 14 states, including Ohio."

    "Mayors of more than 50 Ohio cities, including Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati, belong to the coalition, which supports a bill in Congress to close a loophole that allows private gun sales without background checks."

    "The act would require all gun sellers, licensed or unlicensed, to determine if a buyer is legally able to purchase a gun, Glaze said.

    One way would be to request a buyer to present a gun permit that required a background check within the previous five years or to have a licensed gun dealer or the police perform a background check on the buyer.

    Consequently, if police recover a gun used in a crime and find that previous owner had not taken those steps, he could face prosecution for a misdemeanor."

    Gun sales without background check easy on Internet, mayors group says
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yep, just like buying one from your local liberal newspaper classifieds.
    Which should require a background check
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Which should require a background check
    Maybe in your opinion, but it is not required now.

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Maybe in your opinion, but it is not required now.
    I'm glad that you understand what the word "should"means
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm glad that you understand what the word "should"means
    I'm glad you understand that I understand.

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    "Hard work starts now" as Senate takes up gun control

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate cleared the way on Thursday for debate on proposals to curb gun violence, rejecting an effort by conservative Republicans to block consideration of gun-control legislation prompted by the Newtown school massacre.

    The Senate voted 68-31 to open what will likely be weeks of emotional debate on President Barack Obama's proposals to expand background checks for gun buyers, tighten restrictions on gun trafficking and increase funding for school security.

    That margin easily cleared the 60-vote hurdle needed to break a Republican filibuster on a bill that has sparked intense lobbying on both sides, including by families of the victims of the December 14 shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, as well as the powerful gun lobby led by the National Rifle Association.

    "The hard work starts now," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, said after the procedural vote to open debate, which was watched by some family members of the 20 children and six adults killed by the gunman in Newtown four months ago.

    The measure, which would be the first major gun-control legislation to pass Congress since 1994, still faces significant hurdles, including weeks of expected debate in the Senate featuring many amendments that could make the bill unacceptable to senators who now support it.

    If it clears the Democratic-led Senate, it would face a tough reception in the Republican-led House of Representatives.

    Republican House Speaker John Boehner would not promise a House vote on any gun bill produced by the Senate, saying it probably would be sent to the House Judiciary Committee for review.

    "I fully expect that the House will act in some way, shape or form," Boehner told reporters on Thursday. "But to make a blanket commitment without knowing what the underlying bill is, I think, would be irresponsible on my part."

    Sixteen Republicans joined 50 Democrats and two independents in voting to open Senate debate on the gun-control measure."

    "Hard work starts now" as Senate takes up gun control
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think our gun laws do need to be discussed, and here is how I would like to see it turn out:

    1) Limiting availability of certain types of weapons? NO!! Whatever guns are made illegal, it won't stop the criminals from continuing to obtain them. So why shouldn't law abiding Americans have the same access to them, LEGALLY? Therefore, I am against any form of gun control. I do not see what the problem is with those who call themselves Liberal here.

    2) Background checks - YES!! After all, we do want to make it harder for crazies and criminals to obtain guns, and provide very stiff penalties to those who obtain guns illegally. I am very much in favor of background checks. Does this stance go along with the Second Amendment? Of course it does. Criminals and insane people do not have Second Amendment rights. It's very much like the states who take away voting rights of criminals. Felons, especially violent felons, should not be allowed to own firearms. Period. I don't see what the problem is with people who call themselves Conservative here.
    We have background checks now. Care to proffer an estimation on how many "criminals" or those with "criminal intent" would undergo a "background check"??? Again, please explain to me how "background" checks will do a SINGLE thing to prevent crime? I don't see why someone who takes a self label of "conservative" would regurgitate inane asinine liberal "talking points".

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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After 20 years we will finally be getting a vote on significant gun legislation. The NRA juggernaut is weakening and we will hear from the people instead.
    I'm a bit of a cynic so I'd say your statement is a bit an over-reach about the NRA's having a loosening stanglehold over politicians.
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    Re: Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Eye roll**

    The "people" are a bunch of emotional children.
    YEAH! **** the people.
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