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    Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill - CBS News

    A pair of bipartisan senators on Wednesday announced they've reached an agreement over a bill to expand background checks for gun sales, marking a significant first step as Congress attempts to tackle the thorny issue of gun control. While the Senate is now one step closer to actually voting on the legislation, the bill's fate remains far from certain, its authors acknowledged.

    "I think this is a fluid situation, and it's hard to predict," said Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., one of the drafters of the background check bill, said of the legislation's chances. He added, however, that the legislation represents common ground and that he's "hopeful" it can pass.

    "Criminals and the dangerously mentally ill shouldn't have guns," Toomey said. "I don't know anyone who disagrees with that premise."

    Toomey and Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., told reporters Wednesday that they have reached an agreement with Sens. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., on the legislation, which would expand background checks to cover firearm sales at gun shows and over the Internet. When the Senate votes this week to begin debate on gun legislation, their bill will be the first amendment up for consideration, Manchin said.

    The push for new measures to reduce gun violence was sparked by the December shooting in Newtown, Conn., which Manchin said "changed us all."

    "This amendment won't ease the pain... but nobody here, not one of us in this great capital of ours in good conscious could sit by and not try to prevent a day like that from happening again," he said.

    Manchin and Toomey both receive high marks from the National Rifle Association, which should help make their legislation more palatable to both Democrats and Republicans concerned about looking soft on Second Amendment rights. Of all the proposals up for consideration, expanding background checks may have the best chance of passing because of the overwhelming public support behind the idea.

    "I don't consider criminal background checks to be gun control -- it's just common sense," Toomey said. When asked whether he was concerned about losing his strong rating from the NRA, he said, "What matters to me is doing the right thing, and I think this is the right thing." The senator added that most Pennsylvanians would agree with him.
    This is just feel good legislation. Would it have prevented Newtown? No. Will it make a difference? Absolutely not.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

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    This is just feel good legislation. Would it have prevented Newtown? No. Will it make a difference? Absolutely not.
    But will it get give them someone to proclaim in the campaign trail?
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    Nobody wants criminals or mentally ill to have guns. That is what the gun control side keeps pushing...as if their way will somehow ensure that they don't them. Haven't stopped them in the past, how could they stop them now? Trying pushing for enforcement and better mental Health care.
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    But will it get give them someone to proclaim in the campaign trail?
    Look what I did "for the children!"

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    WIll the bill cost us money? Yes. Is it paid for by offsetting cuts? No. It is thus a bipartisan "crisis" or "emergency" bill, we must just suck it up and pass it, so we can see what is in it.
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WIll the bill cost us money? Yes. Is it paid for by offsetting cuts? No. It is thus a bipartisan "crisis" or "emergency" bill, we must just suck it up and pass it, so we can see what is in it.
    Someone should hide a provision that makes Congress a volunteer position with no benefits in a large bill. I wouldn't be surprised if it went unnoticed until after they passed it.

    Or if it was found, at least they would start to look at bills more carefully.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Nobody wants criminals or mentally ill to have guns. That is what the gun control side keeps pushing...as if their way will somehow ensure that they don't them. Haven't stopped them in the past, how could they stop them now? Trying pushing for enforcement and better mental Health care.
    Don't ban nukes, people will still get nukes!
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Someone should hide a provision that makes Congress a volunteer position with no benefits in a large bill. I wouldn't be surprised if it went unnoticed until after they passed it.

    Or if it was found, at least they would start to look at bills more carefully.
    What, so only the already-wealthy can be in congress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What, so only the already-wealthy can be in congress?
    I believe that Congress should be a paid position. The point was that no one would pass a bill with such a provision, unless they didn't read it. It was just a hypothetical experiment to see who reads the bill and who blindly votes.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Don't ban nukes, people will still get nukes!
    Yeah like M. Korea, and Iran, not to mention Pakistan, Russia, China and Israel.


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