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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

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    Don't ban nukes, people will still get nukes!
    And someone quickly jumps into Gun-Godwin the thread.

    One, there's a much stronger argument to be made that artillary are seperate from the notion of arms than with something like an "assault weapon".

    Two, there's multiple international treaties we're involved in that have legal regulations regarding the obtaining of nuclear material and weapons and treaties are given constitutional weight and thus could cut into the notion of the 2nd amendment even if nukes were covered under it (by the way, this is partially why people are very adverse to signing UN treaties regarding firearms)

    Third, it's an inherently massively unrealistic situation. There's a reason why various terrorist groups or despot leaders of countries are routinely trying to garner a nuclear bomb but aren't able to...because it's far from taking a stroll down to the local walmart and picking one up in terms of difficulty. The likelihood of a citizen that poses any kind of threat actually obtaining a nuclear weapon, even if legal, would be ridiculously small.

    But nice job gun-godwining
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

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    What, so only the already-wealthy can be in congress?
    Thats the way it works anyway!

    You or I don't have enough money to be elected dogcatcher.

    As they say about the evil rich-they don't need the money.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And someone quickly jumps into Gun-Godwin the thread.

    One, there's a much stronger argument to be made that artillary are seperate from the notion of arms than with something like an "assault weapon".

    Two, there's multiple international treaties we're involved in that have legal regulations regarding the obtaining of nuclear material and weapons and treaties are given constitutional weight and thus could cut into the notion of the 2nd amendment even if nukes were covered under it (by the way, this is partially why people are very adverse to signing UN treaties regarding firearms)

    Third, it's an inherently massively unrealistic situation. There's a reason why various terrorist groups or despot leaders of countries are routinely trying to garner a nuclear bomb but aren't able to...because it's far from taking a stroll down to the local walmart and picking one up in terms of difficulty. The likelihood of a citizen that poses any kind of threat actually obtaining a nuclear weapon, even if legal, would be ridiculously small.

    But nice job gun-godwining
    It's not a statement meant to be taken literally. I was being ridiculous to demonstrate how ridiculous "HURR GOTTA BAN KNIVES RIGHT LIBRULS" is.

    Nice job completely missing that.
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    Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Don't ban nukes, people will still get nukes!
    Ad absurdum much? Would you like some apples with your oranges?
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    I find it hard to believe that the Senate will vote on this bill knowing full well it has no hope of getting anywhere in the House. Usually, it's the Senate sitting back and letting House members hang themselves out to dry on such issues.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Why would anyone have a problem with legally having a background check run to putchase a gun, Most gun holders.. I know would accept that, after all Most Good reputable companies run background checks for Employment' nowadays'.

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not a statement meant to be taken literally. I was being ridiculous to demonstrate how ridiculous "HURR GOTTA BAN KNIVES RIGHT LIBRULS" is.

    Nice job completely missing that.
    Yeah, not sure how I missed a statement that wasn't made in this thread. Strange.
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not a statement meant to be taken literally. I was being ridiculous to demonstrate how ridiculous "HURR GOTTA BAN KNIVES RIGHT LIBRULS" is.

    Nice job completely missing that.
    I'm pretty sure that it is currently illegal for anyone to posses a nuclear weapon.
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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zhak View Post
    Why would anyone have a problem with legally having a background check run to putchase a gun, Most gun holders.. I know would accept that, after all Most Good reputable companies run background checks for Employment' nowadays'.
    I just posted this in a different thread, I'll ask you as well: How do you feel about requiring background checks before we allow people to assemble?

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    Re: Senators announce bipartisan agreement on gun bill

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    This is just feel good legislation. Would it have prevented Newtown? No. Will it make a difference? Absolutely not.
    So why are you so freaked out about it then?

    Funny how boomsticklovers constantly say various gun control laws are meaningless, and then they get all bent out of joint trying to prevent them from passing.

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