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    Obama sends Congress $3.77T spending plan, riles both sides

    Is there any doubt that this Community Organizer President doesn't have a clue how the private sector economy works? He is indeed transforming American into a European socialist economy with high taxes, high unemployment, high debt, low economic growth, and greater govt. dependency thus more power for a massive central govt.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Is there really any suspense left as to where Obama wants to take us and what he wants this country to become?

    This has only happened to about 1,000 former world powers before us, and yet, we seem to think it will be different this time.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there really any suspense left as to where Obama wants to take us and what he wants this country to become?

    This has only happened to about 1,000 former world powers before us, and yet, we seem to think it will be different this time.
    there is an arrogance among liberals that says the last group of liberals did it wrong and thus this group of liberals can do it better. The results are always the same however, failure. I don't understand what generates this kind of loyalty to a failed ideology. Too many people think with their hearts and buy the rhetoric that all this spending in the name of compassion actually generates compassionate results which it doesn't unless you believe dependence is compassionate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there is an arrogance among liberals that says the last group of liberals did it wrong and thus this group of liberals can do it better. The results are always the same however, failure. I don't understand what generates this kind of loyalty to a failed ideology. Too many people think with their hearts and buy the rhetoric that all this spending in the name of compassion actually generates compassionate results which it doesn't unless you believe dependence is compassionate.
    Yep. I'd understand if this approach (socialism, or whatever form of it) was a new idea that was just being brought to the forefront. It sounds interesting and promising in a Disney-channel kind of way. But it fails miserably time after time after time, because the greatest greed and waste always lies within the power-hungry throes of governement officials.

    It is absurd to keep giving the government more money, when it never has and never will learn how to manage it.

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    I'm convinced that Obama means well.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there is an arrogance among liberals that says the last group of liberals did it wrong and thus this group of liberals can do it better. The results are always the same however, failure. I don't understand what generates this kind of loyalty to a failed ideology. Too many people think with their hearts and buy the rhetoric that all this spending in the name of compassion actually generates compassionate results which it doesn't unless you believe dependence is compassionate.
    You watched the Republican ideology crash and burn in 2008, losing the faith of the American people and 2 Presidential elections yet you still cling to it like it never happened. We tried it your way and didn't like the results. Time for something different.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You watched the Republican ideology crash and burn in 2008, losing the faith of the American people and 2 Presidential elections yet you still cling to it like it never happened. We tried it your way and didn't like the results. Time for something different.
    It wasn't "our way" that caused it, but you keep telling yourself that. It was Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac that caused the crash of 2008. You kept pushing and threatening over lending "inequities", and you got what you asked for.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It wasn't "our way" that caused it, but you keep telling yourself that. It was Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac that caused the crash of 2008. You kept pushing and threatening over lending "inequities", and you got what you asked for.
    Ignorance is bliss when it comes to Conservatives. Just keep ignoring the facts, voters are not. They are fed up with your false promises.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You watched the Republican ideology crash and burn in 2008, losing the faith of the American people and 2 Presidential elections yet you still cling to it like it never happened. We tried it your way and didn't like the results. Time for something different.
    What Republican Ideology? There doesn't seem to be a nickels worth of difference between the two parties however you won't see the Republicans trying to expand the role of govt. and demonizing individual wealth creation. The past election shows the ignorance of far too many, rhetoric trumps substance and far too many are dependent on the govt. thus will continue to support those that give them the "free" stuff never realizing that someone else is paying for that. Why don' you just send me your address so I can send you a direct check and bypass the bureaucrats and their administrative fees.

    What liberals like you don't understand is self reliance, personal responsibility, and your ability to decide where to send your money.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Ignorance is bliss when it comes to Conservatives. Just keep ignoring the facts, voters are not. They are fed up with your false promises.
    LOL, false promises? Name for me an economic promise that Obama has kept or an economic prediction that has been accurate? Do results ever matter to people like you?

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