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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Spending other than entitlements actually decreases. Entitlement spending increases.

    I guess he could of slashed benefits for SS/Medicare. That would of created less spending.
    He did.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/10/news...html?hpt=hp_t4

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm not proposing anything. You're criticizing him for "increasing spending" but that increase is entirely due to those promises. Non-entitlement spending decreases.
    The increases in spending are due to the belief that we need a 3.77 trillion dollar govt and that was never the intent of the Founders. Suggest reading a history book. Our Founders left England because of the govt. liberals are giving us today

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I knew it. It was your side that insists that SS and Medicare be cut, even though they are fully paid for. Now you want to blame the Dems for what Reps. insisted on.
    That's pretty sleazy...no VERY SLEAZY. I expected nothing less from liars like those on the Right and then you wonder why voters see through it.

    You really don't understand the budget process or what is in the budget, do you? SS/Medicare were indeed fully funded but the money was spent when it was put on budget by LBJ to fund the Vietnam War. Learn your history. I love how you ignore the Obama lies yet blame Repubicans for lying. That is typical liberalism and the inability to ever admit that you are wrong.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I knew it. It was your side that insists that SS and Medicare be cut, even though they are fully paid for. Now you want to blame the Dems for what Reps. insisted on.
    That's pretty sleazy...no VERY SLEAZY. I expected nothing less from liars like those on the Right and then you wonder why voters see through it.
    Actually, the parts added by Republicans, Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D, are partially paid from income taxes.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The increases in spending are due to the belief that we need a 3.77 trillion dollar govt and that was never the intent of the Founders. Suggest reading a history book. Our Founders left England because of the govt. liberals are giving us today
    Hmmm, the Founders we liberals who put together a liberal Constitution.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    John Boehner and Mitch McConnel are on the record stating in order for any sort of big bargain to take place they wanted either the age increased to 67 or Chained CPI.

    The Presidented decided Chained CPI is the lesser of two evils and is offering it as a concession. I'm not sure how anybody that votes Republican can criticize the President for giving their party what they wanted.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Hmmm, the Founders we liberals who put together a liberal Constitution.
    Is that why the Founders left England? The Constitution is very specific, Promote the General Welfare, not provide for it which was changed later by bureaucrats. You seem to support that effect to transform America into the economy our Founders left.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there is an arrogance among liberals that says the last group of liberals did it wrong and thus this group of liberals can do it better. The results are always the same however, failure. I don't understand what generates this kind of loyalty to a failed ideology. Too many people think with their hearts and buy the rhetoric that all this spending in the name of compassion actually generates compassionate results which it doesn't unless you believe dependence is compassionate.
    LOL....the "last group" wasn't the "liberals". The last group was your hero...the clown that drove this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy. Take a look at the history of this country. It is almost always the so-called "Liberals" that get us out of the messes that the Republicans leave us in.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....the "last group" wasn't the "liberals". The last group was your hero...the clown that drove this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy. Take a look at the history of this country. It is almost always the so-called "Liberals" that get us out of the messes that the Republicans leave us in.
    Just like someone from California blaming someone else for their own failures. Continued discussion about perceived Bush results is nothing more than a diversion from the failed Obama agenda. The current results are Obama's and there is nothing Bush did that created those results. I know how much you enjoy seeing the country become more like California with its high debt, high unemployment, and entitlement mentality.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really don't understand the budget process or what is in the budget, do you? SS/Medicare were indeed fully funded but the money was spent when it was put on budget by LBJ to fund the Vietnam War. Learn your history. I love how you ignore the Obama lies yet blame Repubicans for lying. That is typical liberalism and the inability to ever admit that you are wrong.
    The money was not spent, it was lent to the Govt. by the purchase of Treasury bonds with the money. Bonds backed up by the full faith of the US Govt.
    You are the one who is confused or is it lying?

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