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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What Republican Ideology? There doesn't seem to be a nickels worth of difference between the two parties however you won't see the Republicans trying to expand the role of govt. and demonizing individual wealth creation. The past election shows the ignorance of far too many, rhetoric trumps substance and far too many are dependent on the govt. thus will continue to support those that give them the "free" stuff never realizing that someone else is paying for that. Why don' you just send me your address so I can send you a direct check and bypass the bureaucrats and their administrative fees.

    What liberals like you don't understand is self reliance, personal responsibility, and your ability to decide where to send your money.
    What I don't understand is how you can spout that nonsense when all you really mean is to destroy our middle class and our social safety net so a few of you can get incredibly wealthy.
    Those are the results, and that's what is driving your party into the ground.

    Oh and GW Bush grew the Federal Govt. and payroll more than any Democrat

    From the massive increases in agricultural subsidies in the farm bill of 2002, to the new Medicare prescription drug entitlement of 2003; from the 47% increase in the defense budget, to the 80% increase in education spending, George W. Bush has demonstrated that “limited government” is not part of his political vocabulary.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It wasn't "our way" that caused it, but you keep telling yourself that. It was Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac that caused the crash of 2008. You kept pushing and threatening over lending "inequities", and you got what you asked for.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Must be a slow news day. Obama releases a dead-on-arrival budget two months late so full of crap as to ensure another consecutive year in which a budget isn't passed.

    On the bright side, it gives the White House press something to cover other than golf games and anti-gun photo ops.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What I don't understand is how you can spout that nonsense when all you really mean is to destroy our middle class and our social safety net so a few of you can get incredibly wealthy.
    Those are the results, and that's what is driving your party into the ground.
    Is that right? how does accepting personal responsibility destroy the middle class? Obama has done more to destroy the middle class than any other President in history by taking away incentive and making them dependent. What I don't understand is why you cannot see that? I can certainly see why there is a gap between the rich and you and it all stems from attitude. All that rhetoric makes you feel good but the results show that feel good rhetoric to me nothing more than talk. Compassionate spending should be spending that solves problems not makes people dependent

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Spending other than entitlements actually decreases. Entitlement spending increases.

    I guess he could of slashed benefits for SS/Medicare. That would of created less spending.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is there any doubt that this Community Organizer President doesn't have a clue how the private sector economy works? He is indeed transforming American into a European socialist economy with high taxes, high unemployment, high debt, low economic growth, and greater govt. dependency thus more power for a massive central govt.

    Obama sends Congress $3.77T spending plan, riles both sides | Fox News
    Obama is already irrelevant. Most second term Presidents go through a period of lessened power and influence as their second term progresses, however, Obama's dive into oblivious irrelevance has been lightning quick and started during his campaign style tour to scare the American people into believing that sequestration was the end of civilization as they knew it.

    Obama's budget will get even less play than any of his previous four budgets that received no support in either house of congress. The real holders of power, those decision makers in congress, will work out a plan moving forward - it may not be pretty, and it may get down right ugly, but it will not involved President Obama at all, except on the fringes, as he tries desperately to get noticed.

    A membership in a nice DC area golf club with tee times three or four times a week during the spring/summer/fall for the next four years should cost the nation perhaps $100,000 to $200,000 and will be money well spent. Hopefully, he'll get the hint and concentrate on what he's truly interested in and not bother the serious adults who want to turn your country around.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Spending other than entitlements actually decreases. Entitlement spending increases.

    I guess he could of slashed benefits for SS/Medicare. That would of created less spending.
    Aw, yes, let's cut promises made to the people who were forced to contribute into SS and Medicare and let's of course keep those on budget so they provide a slush fund for the bureaucrats. That is liberal brilliance

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, yes, let's cut promises made to the people who were forced to contribute into SS and Medicare and let's of course keep those on budget so they provide a slush fund for the bureaucrats. That is liberal brilliance
    I'm not proposing anything. You're criticizing him for "increasing spending" but that increase is entirely due to those promises. Non-entitlement spending decreases.
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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, yes, let's cut promises made to the people who were forced to contribute into SS and Medicare and let's of course keep those on budget so they provide a slush fund for the bureaucrats. That is liberal brilliance
    I knew it. It was your side that insists that SS and Medicare be cut, even though they are fully paid for. Now you want to blame the Dems for what Reps. insisted on.
    That's pretty sleazy...no VERY SLEAZY. I expected nothing less from liars like those on the Right and then you wonder why voters see through it.

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    Re: Obama Budget, higher taxes and more spending

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What I don't understand is how you can spout that nonsense when all you really mean is to destroy our middle class and our social safety net so a few of you can get incredibly wealthy
    If that were the case, he'd be singing praises to Obama and Bernanke for their handling of this recovery.

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