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sangha said:
Words aren't limited to their legal definitions.
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You were talking about law, so yes they are.
 
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sangha said:
When it comes to normal communications, common usage does trump federal law.
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You are not engaged in normal communications. You are engaged in online debate.
 
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sangha said:
Words aren't limited to their legal definitions.
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LOL but when it comes to the law they are and that is what matters

you lost get over it
 
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sangha said:
You should try to ignore those voices in your head
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And there it is, the crack under pressure.
 
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Jerry said:
You are not engaged in normal communications. You are engaged in online debate.
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he's actually engaged in trying to dig his way out of a hole. He claimed that police officers who stop shootings are not civilians. He was wrong. Proved he was wrong. he wants to pretend civilians have no use for certain weapons and further pretends that such weapons have no legitimate use

cops are civilians. a cop and a non LEO civilian were the two who killed the Texas shooter. both were armed-the non LEO provided cover for the cop who shot the killer. Two civilians with weapons stopped a mass killer
 
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Binky said:
I can see the anti gun freaks going beserk right now in a frenzy trying to figure out how to blame it on guns. There's gotta be a whole lot of side stepping, dancing and scampering to get out of the way, right now. I bet they are livid that it was a knife. Oh boy... Just think... what I said a month or so ago is coming true. If they can't get a gun to do it then they'll use a knife, ball bat or whatever they can. A nutjob doesn't care what he uses to create chaos, he only wishes to do so. If he could use a nail gun to do the job, he would.
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Actually, they are probably thinking, "imagine all the inane things gun nuts are going to be saying, like, should we ban knives now?"

It is interesting to consider how the outcome may been different if the guy had a gun. On one hand, he may have been able to kill more (any) people, but on the other hand, gunfire elicits a response that a "mass stabbing" would not.

I am not sure there is an in between solution that could really seriously reduce gun deaths. The number of people saved by smaller magazines and assault weapons would probably be close to nil. It may be that we either ban guns outright, or don't ban anything we haven't already banned, and if we did ban guns, the majority of people saved would be likely be suicides prevented. But that probably doesn't matter much since an outright ban, ala Australia, is almost certainly impossible in America, I know I would oppose it. Universal background checks is probably the best policy we could pass, it won't make a huge difference, but it is no more intrusive than the policy most of think is already in place.
 
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TurtleDude said:
public law 97-86, codified at Title 10, USC chapter 18 is called the MILITARY COOPERATION WITH CIVILIAN Law Enforcement Act.

CIVILIAN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
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For some reason, many police departments disagree with your rather narrow interpretation of "civilian"

Seattle
Civilian (non-sworn) police employees are responsible for many of the important functions within the department. Because SPD civilian employees work directly with police, you are required to pass a background check and be comfortable in a law enforcement environment that handles sensitive and confidential materials.
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Tucson
Non-sworn Positions at TPD

You can serve in the Tucson Police Department without actually becoming a police officer. TPD’s non-sworn positions are jobs filled by civilian employees. Non-sworn employees don’t go to the academy and don’t wear the uniform, but still serve in a variety of vital roles for TPD.
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Orlando
The Orlando Police Department employs responsible civilian employees to handle many non-violent crimes and service type calls. The purpose is to allow police officers additional time to handle more serious criminal type calls and to perform appropriate proactive enforcement activities.
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A 1993 DoJ press release with what appears to be a definition of civilian that differs from what is federal law
The nation's more than 17,000 state and local
police and sheriff's departments had 840,647
full-time employees as of June 30, 1992, the
Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced
today. BJS, a Department of Justice agency,
said 603,465 of these men and women (or 72
percent) were sworn officers with general
arrest authority and 237,182 (28 percent)
were non-sworn civilian employees.

"These same state and local law enforcement
agencies also employed about 90,000 part-timers,
including 39,200 part-time sworn officers," noted
acting BJS director Lawrence A. Greenfeld.

"During the last six years the number of
civilian personnel in police and sheriff's
departments has grown about twice as fast as
the number of sworn officers,
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It does appear that the colloquial definition of "civilian" is operative in police departments across the country.
 
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Federal law is what matters and under federal law-civilian police are just that civilians. Same under international law. Some cops try to pretend they are different than the rest of us civilians. however, the chief civil law enforcement officer in the USA is a civilian-AG Eric Holder.
 
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sangha said:
Wrong

You don't get to decide what words mean
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only drooling morons think that nut jobs stop killing because cops confront them.

if a cop without a weapon approached a nut job, the cop would be dead.

so whatever point you think you are making is retarded. people with guns stop violent killers.
 
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apdst said:
The campus is a gun free zone.
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I thought Texans didn't like liberal ideas like that. Too bad.
 
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Fenton said:
Ghetto "College" with gang wars and everything.

I wonder what they're teaching there ?

How to pimp, cut rocks and proper "Gatt" hanlding techniques.

Losers
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Just because some black people happen to attend the college doesn't mean that the college teaches pimping. And just because someone is black doesn't mean that his goal in life is to be a pimp. As for Lone Star College itself, they are a decent career school for learning a "gray collar" trade. The company I work for has hired people from there, and they have turned out to be exemplary employees.

On the other hand, maybe you are right, and Virginia Tech teaches people how to make sushi while giving karate kicks to evil overlords from Hong Kong.

BTW, the knife wielder at Lone Star Collge was white.

Sorry to come down on you so hard, but your post was not only over the top where it comes to racial stereotyping and prejudice, but it was also quite dumb.
 
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In three months Obama will fly the victims to DC on Air Force One to testify on the new knife control legislation.
 
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beerftw said:
im pretty sure stabbing people is against the law also,so how to do win?????by declaring that your crime is less significant because a gun wasnt involved????
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Guns usually kill.

Murder is a more significant crime than assault with a deadly weapon.
 
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The guy it turns out is a genuine nut case. Dreamed of killing folks long before yesterday. Love stuffed animals(what 21 yr. old male in college doesn't?) He used a box cutter and it broke off in a womans cheek bone I believe Wen he was capruted he had a smirk on his face and one student said he carried that smirk while he was cutting on people. He said the guy stared right at him but was tackeled before he did anything else and his cutter was broke.
It is good this happened and hopefully the two in critical condition will pull through. This shows that all the antigun folks that it is "insanity" not weapons that kill. I can kill with my hands if I am crazy. I can twist, choke, drown, beat, set fire to, trample a person to death and how will you "outlaw" those acts???
 
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ARealConservative said:
only drooling morons think that nut jobs stop killing because cops confront them.

if a cop without a weapon approached a nut job, the cop would be dead.

so whatever point you think you are making is retarded. people with guns stop violent killers.
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You do know that England officers aren't armed right? You should also note that England has much lower death rate for their officers despite being unarmed.

BBC NEWS | UK | Concern over rising police deaths

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2013
 
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Tettsuo said:
You do know that England officers aren't armed right? You should also note that England has much lower death rate for their officers despite being unarmed.

BBC NEWS | UK | Concern over rising police deaths

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2013
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you do know England has a higher rate of violent crime and comparing apples and oranges is even more ignorant then what i was replying to.
 
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ARealConservative said:
you do know England has a higher rate of violent crime and comparing apples and oranges is even more ignorant then what i was replying to.
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I concede the point. Their population is much smaller, so it's an unfair comparison.
 
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Tettsuo said:
I concede the point. Their population is much smaller, so it's an unfair comparison.
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if population was the cause of this statistical difference, you would see some years show a much more favorable rate. The crime rate is higher every year, so excuses based on proportion are comical (and a sign of mathematical ignorance)
 
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ARealConservative said:
if population was the cause of this statistical difference, you would see some years show a much more favorable rate. The crime rate is higher every year, so excuses based on proportion are comical (and a sign of mathematical ignorance)
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What excuses? Did you read the post you quoted? I conceded I was wrong for posted that lopsided comparison. BTW, I was posting raw numbers. So the mathematical ignorance is on your part.
 
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Tettsuo said:
What excuses? Did you read the post you quoted? I conceded I was wrong for posted that lopsided comparison. BTW, I was posting raw numbers. So the mathematical ignorance is on your part.
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I read. you used the ignorant poulation size as the reason to not compare. the culture is different is the reason comparisons don't work. population is a horrible excuse for proportional differences. I laughed
 
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ARealConservative said:
I read. you used the ignorant poulation size as the reason to not compare. the culture is different is the reason comparisons don't work. population is a horrible excuse for proportional differences. I laughed
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What exactly does culture have to do with the number of police killed? The underlying reasons for why they're killed means absolutely nothing in regards to the numbers.

Your comments are silly.

Take the win... geez.
 
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Tettsuo said:
What exactly does culture have to do with the number of police killed? The underlying reasons for why they're killed means absolutely nothing in regards to the numbers.

Your comments are silly.

Take the win... geez.
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nobody can claim a win wasting time in an exchange with you.

you initially pointed out how the death rate in England is much lower for police.

When I pointed out how much higher the violent crime rate was, you said England is too small, so any comparisons of rates are ineffective.
 
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