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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I did a little digging, myself. http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/...-shootings.pdf

    32 shootings in private homes where-in the victims were related to or romantically linked to the killer, who (in at least 23 of those instances) took their own life during the shoot out. Kind of hard to argue that a mass shooting of that nature is at all similar to the mass shootings comparable to the knife attack we're discussing in this thread. Hell, I would argue that ANY mass shooting in a home is an unequal comparison to other mass shootings simply based upon how people view "home" vs. "public" (i.e. inherently safe vs. inherently risky). But for the sake of argument, I'll limit it solely to the domestic violence encounters.

    Then, you have 23 shootings that took place either inside of or immediately outside of bars. In MOST states, it is illegal to conceal or open carry in a bar. It would appear your link is arguing that since the area outside of the bar is NOT the bar, that any shootings occurring their would fall into the larger category of "legal carry" scenarios. I'd have to say that's a little dishonest (if that's the assumption), as most (if not all) of those shootings resulted from altercations between bar patrons, including those which ended up outside before shots were fired.

    So you have the 23 bar shootings, plus the schools shootings. I didn't bother looking up which states (if any) allow you to legally carry a weapon (concealed or open) inside of a bar.

    In any case, I guess I'm questioning the validity of your link, considering that little blurb is entirely un-cited.

    If we're to assume 56 is the magic number of mass shootings (if your link is accurate in THAT regard), then close to half occurred in areas that are legal "gun free" zones, or immediately outside of those areas (i.e. outside of a bar after a spill-over altercation moves outside).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    They have banned box cutters on commercial aircraft. Hell, they've banned nailclippers.

    And the fact of the matter is that people should NEVER have been allowed to take knives on planes. That stupid oversight (pointed out by people like George Carlin well before 9/11) was the single most preventable thing that allowed 9/11 to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I did miss that. Thanks. That's so ****ing retarded I am literally speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I did a little digging, myself. http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/...-shootings.pdf

    32 shootings in private homes where-in the victims were related to or romantically linked to the killer, who (in at least 23 of those instances) took their own life during the shoot out. Kind of hard to argue that a mass shooting of that nature is at all similar to the mass shootings comparable to the knife attack we're discussing in this thread. Hell, I would argue that ANY mass shooting in a home is an unequal comparison to other mass shootings simply based upon how people view "home" vs. "public" (i.e. inherently safe vs. inherently risky). But for the sake of argument, I'll limit it solely to the domestic violence encounters.

    Then, you have 23 shootings that took place either inside of or immediately outside of bars. In MOST states, it is illegal to conceal or open carry in a bar. It would appear your link is arguing that since the area outside of the bar is NOT the bar, that any shootings occurring their would fall into the larger category of "legal carry" scenarios. I'd have to say that's a little dishonest (if that's the assumption), as most (if not all) of those shootings resulted from altercations between bar patrons, including those which ended up outside before shots were fired.

    So you have the 23 bar shootings, plus the schools shootings. I didn't bother looking up which states (if any) allow you to legally carry a weapon (concealed or open) inside of a bar.

    In any case, I guess I'm questioning the validity of your link, considering that little blurb is entirely un-cited.

    If we're to assume 56 is the magic number of mass shootings (if your link is accurate in THAT regard), then close to half occurred in areas that are legal "gun free" zones, or immediately outside of those areas (i.e. outside of a bar after a spill-over altercation moves outside).
    I didn't bother reading more than the first two lines of your post because it's obvious that your efforts serve only to obscure the fact that your previous comment was flat out wrong

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    maybe because most mass shootings take place in (shocker!!) "gun free" zones.
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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I didn't bother reading more than the first two lines of your post because it's obvious that your efforts serve only to obscure the fact that your previous comment was flat out wrong
    I see. I provide a thought out response and a link to sourced information to support my claim and refute data provided in YOUR link and you ignore it because, why? Is it too hard to do the research? Is it too challenging to think beyond un-cited claims from a biased source?
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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    2996 people were murdered on 9/11 by people with box cutters and the TSA has determined that we should allow knifes on planes again. Why havn't we the people demanded that congress ban box cutters nationwide? Or for that matter why have we not banned Commercial Aircraft? Why does it make sense to ban scary looking semi automatic firearms but not box cutters and commercial aircraft?
    The obvious solution you're missing is to only allow trained professionals to pilot commercial aircraft, then 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No mass shooter has ever been stopped by a civilian with a gun.
    Not true.

    In fact, some mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens. Though press accounts downplayed it, the 2002 shooting at Appalachian Law School was stopped when a student retrieved a gun from his car and confronted the shooter. Likewise, Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 from his truck and ran to the scene. In February's Utah mall shooting, it was an off-duty police officer who happened to be on the scene and carrying a gun.

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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Not true.



    People don't stop mass shooters. People with guns stop them.
    The Appalachian shooting was not a mass shooting and there is controversy on whether the civilians stopped him

    Appalachian School of Law shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And Woodham wasn't stopped by a civilian with a gun. He had already stopped shooting, and when a civilian with a gun approached him, he drove away. He was stopped by losing control of the car and crashing.

    And an off-duty police officer is not a civilian
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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

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    Re: Over a dozen injured in Lone Star College campus stabbing Read more: http://www.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The Appalachian shooting was not a mass shooting and there is controversy on whether the civilians stopped him

    Appalachian School of Law shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And Woodham wasn't stopped by a civilian with a gun. He had already stopped shooting, and when a civilian with a gun approached him, he drove away. He was stopped by losing control of the car and crashing.

    And an off-duty police officer is not a civilian
    For your statement to have any meaning, one would have to show that armed civilians had tried unsuccessfully to stop shootings. Or even that there were armed civilians there who did nothing. From those statistics one could find meaning. Just "It's never happened," doesn't really prove anything. In my opinion, of course,
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