cops are civilians. a cop and a non LEO civilian were the two who killed the Texas shooter. both were armed-the non LEO provided cover for the cop who shot the killer. Two civilians with weapons stopped a mass killer
It is interesting to consider how the outcome may been different if the guy had a gun. On one hand, he may have been able to kill more (any) people, but on the other hand, gunfire elicits a response that a "mass stabbing" would not.
I am not sure there is an in between solution that could really seriously reduce gun deaths. The number of people saved by smaller magazines and assault weapons would probably be close to nil. It may be that we either ban guns outright, or don't ban anything we haven't already banned, and if we did ban guns, the majority of people saved would be likely be suicides prevented. But that probably doesn't matter much since an outright ban, ala Australia, is almost certainly impossible in America, I know I would oppose it. Universal background checks is probably the best policy we could pass, it won't make a huge difference, but it is no more intrusive than the policy most of think is already in place.
For some reason, many police departments disagree with your rather narrow interpretation of "civilian"
TucsonCivilian (non-sworn) police employees are responsible for many of the important functions within the department. Because SPD civilian employees work directly with police, you are required to pass a background check and be comfortable in a law enforcement environment that handles sensitive and confidential materials.
OrlandoNon-sworn Positions at TPD
You can serve in the Tucson Police Department without actually becoming a police officer. TPDís non-sworn positions are jobs filled by civilian employees. Non-sworn employees donít go to the academy and donít wear the uniform, but still serve in a variety of vital roles for TPD.
A 1993 DoJ press release with what appears to be a definition of civilian that differs from what is federal lawThe Orlando Police Department employs responsible civilian employees to handle many non-violent crimes and service type calls. The purpose is to allow police officers additional time to handle more serious criminal type calls and to perform appropriate proactive enforcement activities.
It does appear that the colloquial definition of "civilian" is operative in police departments across the country.The nation's more than 17,000 state and local
police and sheriff's departments had 840,647
full-time employees as of June 30, 1992, the
Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced
today. BJS, a Department of Justice agency,
said 603,465 of these men and women (or 72
percent) were sworn officers with general
arrest authority and 237,182 (28 percent)
were non-sworn civilian employees.
"These same state and local law enforcement
agencies also employed about 90,000 part-timers,
including 39,200 part-time sworn officers," noted
acting BJS director Lawrence A. Greenfeld.
"During the last six years the number of
civilian personnel in police and sheriff's
departments has grown about twice as fast as
the number of sworn officers,
ďAnd I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.Ē
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
Federal law is what matters and under federal law-civilian police are just that civilians. Same under international law. Some cops try to pretend they are different than the rest of us civilians. however, the chief civil law enforcement officer in the USA is a civilian-AG Eric Holder.
On the other hand, maybe you are right, and Virginia Tech teaches people how to make sushi while giving karate kicks to evil overlords from Hong Kong.
BTW, the knife wielder at Lone Star Collge was white.
Sorry to come down on you so hard, but your post was not only over the top where it comes to racial stereotyping and prejudice, but it was also quite dumb.
The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
In three months Obama will fly the victims to DC on Air Force One to testify on the new knife control legislation.