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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Obama is using NK to prime the pump of public fear so when we do attack Iran it won't look like he is taking his orders from Israel. They are pre-framing the argument as bold leadership against nuclear proliferation. It isn't like NK hasn't been doing this same crap since 2006.
    Dude you just said "Obama" and "bold leadership " in the same post. Might be time for a break.

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Dude you just said "Obama" and "bold leadership " in the same post. Might be time for a break.
    Well not voting present is bold for him. It is just a matter of perspective.

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Pay attention to what? Reality? Or an Orwellian piece of fiction?

    Every conspiracy theorist fancies himself enlightened to the one true horror of the world. The great irony is that they are the deceived.
    Indeed, those paying attention and wishing that our government control its wars and the excuses it uses during such to rob us of our rights and liberties is certainly a "conspiracy" theory instead of measured reality

    I'll never understand why people rally against science and math.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed, those paying attention and wishing that our government control its wars and the excuses it uses during such to rob us of our rights and liberties is certainly a "conspiracy" theory instead of measured reality
    Correct.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'll never understand why people rally against science and math.
    And I've always wondered why animals need sleep.

    Random, unrelated mysteries - that's what you were going for here right?

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Correct.
    I know. Controlling government is such a horrible thing, yes?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    And I've always wondered why animals need sleep.

    Random, unrelated mysteries - that's what you were going for here right?
    Nope, the inability of many to analyse situations and properly extract data and conclusion from a statistical set. That's what I was going for there. Perchance you need some more math and science in your life.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I know. Controlling government is such a horrible thing, yes?
    Don't know what that has do with anything. The government - erm, excuse me I mean "gubmint" - is not acting out some evil master plan to engage in "infinity war" to keep the ignorant masses enslaved muahahahahahha. That's a fiction novel by George Orwell. Do you normally have this difficulty distinguishing fiction from reality?

    Before we continue this discussion any further, have you put on your tin foil hat yet? They're probably listening, y'know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, the inability of many to analyse situations and properly extract data and conclusion from a statistical set. That's what I was going for there. Perchance you need some more math and science in your life.
    I'm a mechanical engineer in the aerospace industry. I get pretty healthy dose of math and science in my daily diet, so please forgive me if I laugh at your proclaimed prowess to "analyse" situations and "properly extract data". Your mother must be so proud. "My son extracts data soooo properly".

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Don't know what that has do with anything. The government - erm, excuse me I mean "gubmint" - is not acting out some evil master plan to engage in "infinity war" to keep the ignorant masses enslaved muahahahahahha. That's a fiction novel by George Orwell. Do you normally have this difficulty distinguishing fiction from reality?
    Well I'll put that up there with god. I'll believe it when we see it. I'd love, love, to see the day where we halt interventionism.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Before we continue this discussion any further, have you put on your tin foil hat yet? They're probably listening, y'know.
    How droll.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I'm a mechanical engineer in the aerospace industry. I get pretty healthy dose of math and science in my daily diet, so please forgive me if I laugh at your proclaimed prowess to "analyse" situations and "properly extract data". Your mother must be so proud. "My son extracts data soooo properly".
    I'm a physicist; I know way more.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I'll put that up there with god. I'll believe it when we see it. I'd love, love, to see the day where we halt interventionism.
    I just showed you that we're not at war with DPRK, and we're in the process of making some serious defense cuts. It invalidates the idea that it's just a matter of "evil gubmint want war". The explanation "evil gubmint want war" is a lazy, oversimplified one. It does a piss poor job of explaining what we observe. The reasons we (and even countries close to your Orwellian fantasy such as North Korea) go to war and engage in other tools of foreign policy are much more nuanced and complicated than that. Any one liner explanation is bound to be a poor one.

    But you'll continue believing it in spite of the facts or any argument I offer because believing otherwise threatens the world view you've taken and have become so comfortable with - the same reason any conspiracy theorist believes their nonsense in spite of evidence to the contrary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm a physicist; I know way more.
    No doubt. Like I said, your mother must be so proud of her little data extractor.

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I just showed you that we're not at war with DPRK, and we're in the process of making some serious defense cuts.
    Oh, huzzah! There's a nation we're not bombing yet! Why that's true accomplishment right there! I feel so much better knowing that there's at least one place we have not started bombing yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    It invalidates the idea that it's just a matter of "evil gubmint want war". The explanation "evil gubmint want war" is a lazy, oversimplified one. It does a piss poor job of explaining what we observe. The reasons we (and even countries close to your Orwellian fantasy such as North Korea) go to war and engage in other tools of foreign policy are much more nuanced and complicated than that. Any one liner explanation is bound to be a poor one.
    No it doesn't. Just because we ain't bombing North Korea doesn't mean that we aren't at war. I'm a bit surprised that had to be stated. Infinity war doesn't take place in just one theater, it requires a bit of mobility.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    But you'll continue believing it in spite of the facts or any argument I offer because believing otherwise threatens the world view you've taken and have become so comfortable with - the same reason any conspiracy theorist believes their nonsense in spite of evidence to the contrary.
    Well I await this "evidence" of yours. Please show me I am wrong, cause I'd love to not be at war. It would be superb to halt our interventionism. Please show me the data.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: North Korea warns foreigners in South Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Oh, huzzah! There's a nation we're not bombing yet! Why that's true accomplishment right there! I feel so much better knowing that there's at least one place we have not started bombing yet.
    Oh, shall I list them all? Alphabetically?

    Maybe then you'd be able to extract a trend from the data with your renowned data extraction powers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No it doesn't. Just because we ain't bombing North Korea doesn't mean that we aren't at war. I'm a bit surprised that had to be stated.
    No one has disputed that we are currently engaged in war in Afghanistan, so I don't have a clue why you're trying to counter such a position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Infinity war doesn't take place in just one theater, it requires a bit of mobility.
    Save your time - I'm not interested in the details of your "infinity war" babble.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I await this "evidence" of yours.
    We are not at war with North Korea and we've recently made serious defense cuts. Just out of curiosity - how many more times would you like me to repeat it? I'm getting bored.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Please show me I am wrong, cause I'd love to not be at war.
    Again, I don't know where you're getting this silly impression that someone said we're not at war in Afghanistan. Did you imagine in your mind that I said it and then get confused about imagination vs reality? It wouldn't be the first time, afterall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It would be superb to halt our interventionism. Please show me the data.
    I haven't said we've halted interventionism. Nor does our adherence to interventionism or lackthereof have any bearing on the fact that your claim is false - our government does not seek war to keep its own population.... enslaved.... or whatever it is you think is happening.

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