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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The second greatest political Briton of the 20th century, after only Winston Churchill. RIP.
    Very apt graphic. Both she and Churchill were happy to live under the flag of a foreign nation, provided it was that one.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    "The kind people have a wonderful dream -
    Margaret on a guillotine.
    And people like you make me feel so tired.
    When will you die, when will you die,
    When will you die, when will you die"

    Morrissey also said in 2005 that people like Labour Leader Tony Blair have proved that in order to succeed in politics you must be cruel and morally bankrupt and that he saw no difference between Blair and Saddam Hussein both being egotistical dictators. He went on to say perhaps the only difference is that Blair does it with a smile, Murder and smile .... as Shakespeare said and that Good people do not succeed in politics - it's impossible.

    Not that I am particuarly interested in what Morrissey thinks, his views are no more worthy than any one elses.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Lest there be an argument as to her being a psychopath. Not all psychopaths are mass murderer's. Indeed many are businessmen and in Management where their ability not to feel or care about other people often is an asset as it appeared to be for her. She cared not one bit when people died on hunger strikes or the sinking of the Belgrano or any of the other things which have been mentioned.
    The second case I don't know much about, but hunger strikes depend on the other side giving in to your demands simply because they feel sorry for you. I find it contemptible behavior that should not be humored by anyone. People that go on hunger strikes should be told to get a sandwich or suffer the consequences of their stupidity of deciding to starve. Just because you are stupid and decide to starve doesn't mean I have to give in to you.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I'm all ears for how today is worse than the 1970's. You made the claim, please back this up.
    I've already provided the government's own stats showing that unemployment was lower. Now there are higher levels of personal debt, government debt, social and economic inequality, and child poverty. Which of these claims do you dispute? Here's a useful source...

    How Britain changed under Margaret Thatcher.

    You're going to claim the credit crunch is down to Thatcher?
    You going to continually move the goalposts?

    LOL, when half of Eastern Europe is lauding her role and the other half (the old communists) hate her - I can see where you stand.
    Corrupt politicians everywhere have been lauding her. The Oligarchs absolutely love her. I can see the people you're siding with.

    I'm all ears for how the economy otherwise turned around from where it was heading throughout the 1970's to where we've been the last 20 years.
    I've done quite a lot of leg-work already. I'm now going to wait and see how you justify your claim that ordinary British people are so much better off now than they were in the 1970s.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    You give us 100 minutes of propaganda Andy - here's 4 minutes of factual review by ITN News.



    Not all miners wanted to strike - many wanted to work, that's the bit your videos gloss over.
    Thanks for the video. It's amazing that people think the right course of action is to strike when action is taken on a business that is not turning a profit. Do they think they should be allowed to work at a place of employment that is running into the red? If so, why? I still can't help to laugh at people that want to nationalize things and then cry when the government acts on those things nationalized. What did they think would happen, exactly? Oh right, they never listen to people like me. We are selfish assholes that don't care about anyone.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    The idea that you could take a late 20th century world power and magically transport it back 50 years in time foreign policy wise, 200 years back in time legally, and 3,000 years back in time socially.........................
    That doesn't really explain it, but just raises more questions.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I've already provided the government's own stats showing that unemployment was lower. Now there are higher levels of personal debt, government debt, social and economic inequality, and child poverty. Which of these claims do you dispute? Here's a useful source...

    How Britain changed under Margaret Thatcher.

    You going to continually move the goalposts?

    Corrupt politicians everywhere have been lauding her. The Oligarchs absolutely love her. I can see the people you're siding with.

    I've done quite a lot of leg-work already. I'm now going to wait and see how you justify your claim that ordinary British people are so much better off now than they were in the 1970s.
    I moved no goalposts - you made the claim about how all things are worse. I'll give you some more balanced reading in contrast - figures from the Office of National Statistics.

    By the way - I'd still like to see you back up the social / political / foreign policy etc claims you made against Thatcher.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    -- Do they think they should be allowed to work at a place of employment that is running into the red? --
    It's worse than this, the expectation that the rest of the country pay for and subidise their employment for ever (jobs for life ideals) ran deep as you can see from those I disagree with even now.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Interesting to juxtapose two politicians and the relative dignity and seriousness they bring to the office.

    Why I Loved Margaret Thatcher - Ricochet.com

    versus

    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/a...s/234608_o.gif

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Thanks for the video. It's amazing that people think the right course of action is to strike when action is taken on a business that is not turning a profit. Do they think they should be allowed to work at a place of employment that is running into the red? If so, why? I still can't help to laugh at people that want to nationalize things and then cry when the government acts on those things nationalized. What did they think would happen, exactly? Oh right, they never listen to people like me. We are selfish assholes that don't care about anyone.
    The miners might have gained more status had they mined for pearls that weren't there rather than coal that wasn't there.
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