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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Don't be so daft. Who else has the power to destroy a country? Look at Bliar and Cameron.
    The UK has been destroyed 3 different times by Blair, Cameron and Thatcher?

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

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    The UK has been destroyed 3 different times by Blair, Cameron and Thatcher?
    Basically destroyed by thatcher, disgraced and publicly shamed by bliar, and the desert turned into a squalid bleeding class-battlefield by the scumbag Cameron and his liars. All that will be left is the drunken ranting nazis of the Mail, torturing the sick and the poor.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I never take pleasure is someone's death. I wanted her tried, obviously. I hate no-one, but she destroyed my country and made milllions suffer, rewardiong every kind of evil and making ignorant selfishness 'normal'. She was the worst human being who has ever lived, anywhere, ever.
    Facts on Thatcher....

    After moving into 10 Downing Street, Thatcher introduced a series of political and economic initiatives to reverse what she perceived to be Britain's precipitous national decline.[nb 1] Her political philosophy and economic policies emphasised deregulation (particularly of the financial sector), flexible labour markets, the privatisation of state-owned companies, and reducing the power and influence of trade unions.

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    Thatcher was committed to reducing the power of the trade unions, whose leadership she accused of undermining parliamentary democracy and economic performance through strike action.[100] Several unions launched strikes in response to legislation introduced to curb their power, but resistance eventually collapsed.[101] Only 39% of union members voted for Labour in the 1983 general election.[102] According to the BBC, Thatcher "managed to destroy the power of the trade unions for almost a generation".[103]
    The miners' strike was the biggest confrontation between the unions and the Thatcher government. In March 1984 the National Coal Board (NCB) proposed to close 20 of the 174 state-owned mines and cut 20,000 jobs out of 187,000.[104][105][106] Two-thirds of the country's miners, led by the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) under Arthur Scargill, downed tools in protest.[104][107][108] Scargill had refused to hold a ballot on the strike,[109] having previously lost three ballots on a national strike (January 1982, October 1982, March 1983).[110] This led to the strike's being declared illegal.[111][112]
    Thatcher refused to meet the union's demands and compared the miners' dispute to the Falklands conflict two years earlier, declaring in a speech in 1984: "We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty."[113]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher
    So, she turned the economy around, slowed the decline of the country, and challenged the union stranglehold on the coal, so she is demonized, and hated by Marxist, but history provides that she was a hero of the British people. Without her you brits wouldn't have a pot to piss in right now.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Basically destroyed by thatcher
    Please explain?
    If your world (the UK as you knew it) was the one where someone else paid the bills for your local council parties and community schemes, where you had a job for life and if you were sacked for being caught in a sleeping bag at work - the unions would get you back into your job and an abject apology from your employer then I agree. Otherwise, Thatcher put a stop to the nightmare of the 70's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    disgraced and publicly shamed by bliar
    I'd like an example and explanation of this please. All I'm reacting to is your emotive reaction to politicians you didn't like.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    -- Without her you brits wouldn't have a pot to piss in right now.
    We would, but it would have been lent to us by the IMF and the unions would demand the right to piss in it first.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    'Raises' is the word you want.
    Many English speakers use "begs the question" to mean "raises the question", "evades the question", or even "ignores the question", and follow that phrase with the question, for example: "this year's deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" Apart from philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, some authorities deem such usage to no longer be mistaken.[5][6][7][25][26]

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

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    Facts on Thatcher....



    So, she turned the economy around, slowed the decline of the country, and challenged the union stranglehold on the coal, so she is demonized, and hated by Marxist, but history provides that she was a hero of the British people. Without her you brits wouldn't have a pot to piss in right now.
    So we are in the mess we are in today. She hated, basically, people, and did them all the harm she could. Clearly you are a tory, so you have the same aims. We suffered, you prate.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

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    We would, but it would have been lent to us by the IMF and the unions would demand the right to piss in it first.
    True....
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I never take pleasure is someone's death. I wanted her tried, obviously. I hate no-one, but she destroyed my country and made milllions suffer, rewardiong every kind of evil and making ignorant selfishness 'normal'. She was the worst human being who has ever lived, anywhere, ever.
    Sorry the bolded bit makes a mockery of your I hare no-one bit. In no way shape or form could she be considered the worst human being that has ever lived. Again I named 4 totally evil dictators we could go back farther in time to Ghengis Khan, Vlad the impaler Caligula etc. You disagreed with her policies but she was not an evil dictator at the very worst you can consider her a democratically elected politician who's policies were not good for your country. Unless/until they actually take over and make a dictatorship, you are just spewing hate.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    So we are in the mess we are in today. She hated, basically, people, and did them all the harm she could. Clearly you are a tory, so you have the same aims. We suffered, you prate.
    I sir am an American conservative....Thatcher didn't "hate people"...Just Marxist people she saw destroying her beloved Britain....
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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