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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer. View Post
    It wasn't just the pits, it was vast swathes of the industry sector which were deliberately closed and she did nothing to help bring new jobs into the region or any re-training programs.
    I blame what happened in the 70's as much as what happened ion the 80's, a lot of British industry had become uncompetitive by the 1970's never mind the 1980's, and we all know that the actions of certain Unions and their leaders played a major part in this. You can blame Thatcher all you want but this is the reality of the situation.

    It should also not be forgotten that modern new techonlogy such as containerisation saw dockers layed off, whilst fleet street's arcane practices were also stopped and that people no longer wanted ships built in Britain as they were more expensive than ships built abroad and union walkouts meant that ships were rarely delivered on time. Whilst at the time the Japanese and South Koreans were establishing themselves as the new industrial powerhouses with low prices and no union walkouts, although a lot of manufacturing production has since moved to the Chinese and other Far Eastern Nations, such is the need to maufacturer cheapily in a global marketplace. Indeed even back them we could see globalisation starting to have an impact on the British Economy and Thatcher understood this.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    She was so overrated, just like her buddy Ronnie Raygun, and her legacy has been so inflated by neo-con-capitalists that it would be laughable if the damage she (and Raygun) did to the working class wasn't so severe and ever-lasting. She was the kind of matriarchal headmistress type who threw her own country over to the speculators as well as helping to turn it into a cheap labor colony. She's a prime example of why women shouldn't be in politics.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    She was so overrated, just like her buddy Ronnie Raygun, and her legacy has been so inflated by neo-con-capitalists that it would be laughable if the damage she (and Raygun) did to the working class wasn't so severe and ever-lasting. She was the kind of matriarchal headmistress type who threw her own country over to the speculators as well as helping to turn it into a cheap labor colony.
    you say she was overrated? ....because she hated socialism...

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87 [W:113]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Just announced, Thatcher dies of a stroke.

    About time. The news is so new that only a ticker-tape...

    Telegraph.co.uk - Telegraph online, Daily Telegraph, Sunday Telegraph - Telegraph

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    BBC News - Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies, aged 87

    I always admired the Iron Lady... in a time when the idea of a female head of state was widely viewed with skepticism, she was the person who convinced me a woman could be a strong leader through troubled times.

    RIP, Lady Thatcher.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87 [W:113]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Just announced, Thatcher dies of a stroke.

    About time. The news is so new that only a ticker-tape...

    Telegraph.co.uk - Telegraph online, Daily Telegraph, Sunday Telegraph - Telegraph

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    BBC News - Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies, aged 87
    May she RIP, she was one heck of a lady, a great leader that made Britain relevant once again.
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Many socialists here, and abroad are still smarting from the fall of the wall.
    I always find it stirking that those in Eastern Europe get so little credit for this.

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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    We've been over this before and I posted a Parliamentary report for you on another thread - the city only contributes 9% of UK GDP. Continuing to ignore facts doesn't help you. It's a bit like Andy looking at the 80's from the point of view of wishing Michael Foot had been elected and we had continued to slide into an abyss run by the Socialist Worker Party.
    You really don't know anything about socialist politics in the '80s, do you? Socialist Worker, Socialist Action, Militant and the like were tiny, fringe bit-part players. Of course I wish Foot had won and that she had lost. That way we wouldn't be in the **** we're in now, and I'm not talking economically, although a lot of that can be laid at her door too.

    The question is, are we a freer, more cohesive, more at ease with ourselves nation now than in 1980? Are we more alienated or more unified? Is there greater social mobility, or less? Is there rampant social inequality or less? What real benefits can British society look at and ascribe to Thatcher?
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    Re: Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I always find it stirking that those in Eastern Europe get so little credit for this.
    Quite. Let's not forget that she was the number one opponent of German reunification too.
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