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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    And never mind facts. The news about Warren's son's suicide came from staff members of his church whom he e-mailed. Not a press release.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And never mind facts. The news about Warren's son's suicide came from staff members of his church whom he e-mailed. Not a press release.
    Yeah, I don't understand those people. Probably looking for their 5 minutes or something. It should totally be the family's call if they want a "press release" not some staff members.

    Anyway, while I might not agree with Warren, respect him, or approve of anything he's ever done, said, or stood for, my condolences to the family.
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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Would the house have been safer for the son if the gun had not been there? Considering that my dad used a piece of nylon cord to do himself in, I doubt it. But try defending yourself with that or, say, your bathtub. So much for relevance.
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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    yeah I missed the part about him call gays inferior. Where exactly is that in the clip again?
    Oh, I forgot. Some people like to pretend that comparing same-sex relationships to adultery and not thinking same-sex couples are worthy enough to get married like heterosexual couples are is calling same-sex relationships and, in turn, gay people inferior. Hey, as long as you don't say the word "inferior", you're in the clear, right? I guess all those people who didn't think black people were worthy of marrying white people totes didn't think blacks were inferior, LOL.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Another real tragedy, Sharon, and I am so genuinely sorry for your loss.

    In retrospect we can see these 'hints' but all of us at one time or another express some dissatisfaction with the way our lives are going. Only when the worst occurs do we look at it differently but often this is only thinking of how you might have responded differently, something that might have been said or done, in order that this might never have happened. You are thus blaming yourself to some degree, and we both know you can't and shouldn't do that.

    Depression is an illness and we are not trained on how to diagnose it or treat it but we do know that there is a level of greater awareness happening of this disease and perhaps earlier recognition and better treatment is on the way. Meanwhile we all suffer from it, in one way or another.

    I get the feeling, and i certainly don't know, that this young man, Mathew Warren, shot himself in the head because that was the source of his pain and hurt, and that was the only way he could relieve it. It's something few of us will ever understand.
    My brother suffered a horrible tragedy 35 years earlier... My other brothers tell me that we were lucky to have had him with us for so long... but we do miss him.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Thank you for asking this question. I don't know the answer--how people can sit in judgment of an experience that they blessedly know nothing about or exploit instantly a partisan angle or whatever. These are two heartbroken parents and two siblings who are still in shock. The detachment and lack of compassion just stun me.
    It's the result of intellectualizing, rather than empathizing, which happens when an individual is emotionally isolated from humanity at large, and believes that he has some sort of edge over his fellow humans. Intellectualism without it's good companion, love, is a barren desert for human existence.
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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Normal people have nervous breakdowns over the death of a child. And they can barely talk, let alone issue statements to the press..................
    Who are you to tell anybody how they should handle something like this? Normal people indeed. No such thing.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Death is death, no matter how you slice it.
    Unless you get your stomach pumped.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Yeah, I don't understand those people. Probably looking for their 5 minutes or something. It should totally be the family's call if they want a "press release" not some staff members.

    Anyway, while I might not agree with Warren, respect him, or approve of anything he's ever done, said, or stood for, my condolences to the family.
    Maybe it was their way of trying to avoid the inevitable throng of press hounds that will come. I guess it releived the initial pressure.

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    Re: Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

    Nothing like letting politics get in the way of civility. Some things are more important than bipartisan ship or political issues. But don't let that get in the way of your hate people.
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