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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I have to agree with this.

    Conservatives and anti-abortion activists poisoned the well (as usual) by their dishonesty. There's a genuine issue about making any type of drug available to minors, but the GOP and its hacks politicized this medical decision. As usual.
    Well I mean... It kinda is a medical decision and a medical issue considering it's a change in OTC policy and the need for a prescription.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know what's right or wrong with this issue, but it sure makes a person feel sad about the depths to which our society has sunk when people are going to court so young teens can get abortion pills.
    It's not an abortion pill.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know what's right or wrong with this issue, but it sure makes a person feel sad about the depths to which our society has sunk when people are going to court so young teens can get abortion pills.
    As I used to argue with Shal--------Abortion pill or your daughter bearing the offspring of some dawg she let mount her in a teenaged drunken stupor........................

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The minors thing was a figleaf for restricting access to women of all ages. Now that the drugs are available OTC where are the clamoring hordes of pregnant 11 year-olds going to get the 50 bucks to buy the pill?
    I doubt cost will be much of a burden and can see private organization funding free access.

    Cant really comment on the remarks concerning safety. But it sounds like something that would require a prescription in any other circumstance.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    As I used to argue with Shal--------Abortion pill or your daughter bearing the offspring of some dawg she let mount her in a teenaged drunken stupor........................
    just poll everyone on that and spay and neuter everyone who would pick choice #1.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have a bad feeling about this one.

    My concern is someone else putting it in a woman's food to cause losing a ZEF she wants or to prevent pregnancy to begin with - her not even knowing. People not only can go crazy to try to prevent an abortion, other people also can go crazy trying to terminate someone else's pregnancy.

    I'd prefer it be 1.) be behind the counter and 2.) limited to sales to females and 3.) a record kept of anyone who buys it.

    There also needs to be INTENSELY harsh laws passed about giving this to someone without the person's knowledge. Some men and some parents totally freak out learning their girlfriend, mistress or daughter is pregnant. I see potential problems. A women likely wouldn't even known why she lost the ZEF thinking it just a miscarriage. In regards to ZEFs, its like selling cyanide pills OTC. Just slip one to any woman and end a pregnancy she wants, but you don't, in the learn stage. Or even routinely without her knowledge to avoid it happening in the first place. There also is the question of what happens if someone takes a lot of them or slips someone a lot of them at the same time.

    For those reasons I'm not fond of that ruling. Those all are not only very legitimate health concerns, but also assault concerns.
    Umm...correct me if I am wrong but if I remember correctly Plan B only prevents the egg from attaching to the uterine wall, once its attached this pill does nothing. The woman wouldn't even know she was pregnant until well after that step is accomplished.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    Wake me up if your mind ever escapes the rut.
    Wake me up when Tea Party Occupied Congress is dissolved.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    As I used to argue with Shal--------Abortion pill or your daughter bearing the offspring of some dawg she let mount her in a teenaged drunken stupor........................
    OUCH!

    It would be interesting to ask Palin and her promiscuous offspring that question.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Here's my take on the issue.

    I think this was a bad court decision. I think the FDA and boards have every right to label Plan B as a prescription item for minors. No drug is truly safe. Plan B is a synthetic hormone used to prevent ovulation and isn't an abortion pill. The hormone in it is also used at lower doses as a combination with estrogen (usually) in some prescription birth controls.

    When I was a teenager one of my friends illegally obtained Plan B by having an 18 year old friend buy it for her. She shared with me how it messed up her period, made her very very nauseous to the point of vomiting and had put her at home for 2 days. This is a common side effect in adult women and I fear that in pubescent girls or even prepubescent girls would have a higher impact. I think it would be good medical practice to evaluate minors before allowing them to take Plan B (which is the purpose of a prescription). I also think that the parents have a right to know and be notified. I don't think it should be given to minors without a healthcare professional's evaluation and judgement on the issue. I think the patients also need to be counselled.

    I do recognize that there is a problem with access to this medication in minors. Because Plan B has a narrow time limit for activity and it's activity is better the sooner you can take it after unprotected sex I think that requiring someone to be seen by a physician/NP/PA and getting a prescription is too much of a barrier. I think that what should be required is that the parents go with the child to the pharmacy and have the pharmacist do the evaluation and have the medication available under the protocol of being counselled and safe use conditions. The parents would be notified of the drug's usage and would have to approve, the barrier to needing to make an appointment with a physician/NP/PA would be removed and conditions of safe use and evaluation would be set in place with the patient being adequately counselled. I also think this would help reduce the possibility for abuse.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    just poll everyone on that and spay and neuter everyone who would pick choice #1.
    Well. The societal benefits do outweigh the incredibly slim chances of throwing a monkey wrench into the Second Coming..............

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They are against you educating young people about sexuality and its consequences? I was unaware they were against that.
    Uh, you're free associating. I'm not in that business. But qualified teachers in qualified programs are. But you conservatives don't want kids to know about -- oh dear -- sex! Instead, Bush and his ship of fools tried to enforce abstinence training, proved to be a complete fiasco.

    Again, do not let the facts get in the way of your ideological hostility, whatever you do.

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