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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    What law is it contradictory to ?
    Age of consent laws. How can a girl not give consent for sex, yet be left to her own devices on making such decisions?

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Age of consent laws. How can a girl not give consent for sex, yet be left to her own devices on making such decisions?
    You may have a valid point about the age of consent law.
    I suggest you write to the judge who struck down the restrictions and that you also write to your US congresspersons since you feel this violates the age of consent laws.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I wouldn't know about what goes on in Europe, nor do I really care all that much.
    So you care about its' effects on young females, but you don't care when experience in Europe shows that it has no bad effects on young females

    I read that it's effects have NOT been studied on girls as young as 11. Also, do you think it's a good idea for an 11 or 12-year-old to be able to purchase this product without her parents' knowledge?
    I do and since a number of people are arguing in support of this decision, I think it's safe to assume that they do too.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you think it is a good move to allow 11 and 12-year-old girls to make decisions regarding their sexuality? If the answer is yes, then what about consent laws? Are you for doing away with age of consent laws? What about sexual abuse?

    I'm sorry, this should not be allowed without parental permission. It's not just about the potential for a young child to perhaps abuse this medication, but this is just opening up a Pandora's box when it comes to sexual abuse, age of consent, all kinds of things.

    It's quite disturbing that anyone would be okay with "girls of ANY age" having unlimited access to this drug for a variety of reasons.
    Whether we "allow" it or not, some young girls will engage in sex. This decision has nothing to do with allowing girls to make decision regarding their sexuality. It is about allowing young girls the aility to prevent potential pregnancies. By that time, they have already made a decision to have sex.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who's to say her 18 or 20-year-old BF won't pay for it? Think that doesn't happen? Think again.
    So what?
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    How about we end this back and forth that has far removed itself from my original comment and I'll state the gist of that comment again.

    I basically said, counter to what Sangha was claiming, that the cost of the pill would not be a prohibiting issue to the under 17 year old child because under the new Obamacare HHS mandates, the morning after pill has to be included, free of any charge or co-pay, under all insurance policies and that the reproductive rights people and their friends in the Obama administration and HHS will ensure that the morning after pill will be available free of charge.

    Over the counter, under the counter, whatever, my point was that the reproductive rights people will ensure that this court case, granting access to the morning after pill to under 17s without a prescription, will not be essentially voided by cost considerations. You may disagree, as is your right, but I stand by my opinion going forward.
    And again, if a young child uses their parents insurance to pay for the pill, then it will show up on the EOB that the insurance company sends to the parent.

    in addition, in order for the insurance to cover it, the child will have to go to the doctor to get a prescription
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Age of consent laws. How can a girl not give consent for sex, yet be left to her own devices on making such decisions?
    Age of consent laws apply to sex, not to purchasing a MAP
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And again, if a young child uses their parents insurance to pay for the pill, then it will show up on the EOB that the insurance company sends to the parent.

    in addition, in order for the insurance to cover it, the child will have to go to the doctor to get a prescription
    I have no intention of getting into another circular argument with you - we disagree, period. If you want to cover new ground, that's fine - if not, have a good day.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I have no intention of getting into another circular argument with you - we disagree, period. If you want to cover new ground, that's fine - if not, have a good day.
    Run away. It's the smartest thing you have done in this thread

    The FACT that anyone having their insurance pay for their MAP will have to go to the doctor and get a prescription is not a matter of opinion. You are entitled to your opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Run away. It's the smartest thing you have done in this thread

    The FACT that anyone having their insurance pay for their MAP will have to go to the doctor and get a prescription is not a matter of opinion. You are entitled to your opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.
    I'm not running away from anything. However, I'm not an idiot either - I have no intention of satisfying some need you have. If you haven't the intellectual capacity to grasp the meaning of the words I posted, that's a shame, but nothing I can do about it - it's not for me to hand-hold you through them ad-nauseum. If that makes you feel as if somehow you've won, I'm happy I could bring you some joy to your day.

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