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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So you aren't able to provide stats on any longitutinal studies conducted. No surprise to me; I doubt that there have been any. But you did make reference to foreign studies, so it seems to me that you'd be able to provide links to these. Why aren't you being forthcoming when you've made this claim?
    Just an FYI ...

    The UK limits the age because they want doctors to council the pre-16 on sex and other possible solutions like the pill, depending on the amount of sex they're having.

    Age Restrictions on the Morning After Pill


    Since it's been available to "underage" females in many European countries for many years I have to assume it's safe or they would have banned it, themselves, or at least put age restrictions on it. That fact that they haven't speaks for itself. Do you think Europe is less concerned for it's citizens than we are?

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    If you have links supporting longitudinal studies on the effects of Plan B on pubescent girls, I'd be really glad if you'd share them. I'm not informed enough to judge whether the lack of European reports indicates safety or not. If you are, link me up please.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If you have links supporting longitudinal studies on the effects of Plan B on pubescent girls, I'd be really glad if you'd share them. I'm not informed enough to judge whether the lack of European reports indicates safety or not. If you are, link me up please.
    That's why I said it was an FYI. Just knowing they've been selling them for over decade over there is plenty of information for me. The FDA doesn't do human studies for that long before releasing drugs on the market. I have enough confidence that European countries protect their citizens at least as well as we do --- and you obviously don't.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    So,ya, about that 21 year old drinking age....

    Doesn't get much more arbitrary and capricious.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Actually, I believe any medication given in a hospital and/or ER is "prescription", even Tylenol.
    I know, it's dumb. Doctors!
    What an idiotic analogy. Of course all medications given in a hospital are by prescription - it's not at all similar to picking up a pill at the local pharmacy. Too stupid.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    If the child is mine why can't I determine what's best for it? Or should I depend on a government to make that determination for me? If a 13 year old is competent enough to deal in contraceptives then why should the society care at what age he/she is involved in child bearing. After all, if we are but the result of millions of years of evolution, then we certainly can be no more special than any other mammal? Right?
    Because you will die and all that matters then is how well you took care of your offspring. It's how we survived through those millions of years of evolution. You are obviously a outlier, destined for extinction.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So you aren't able to provide stats on any longitutinal studies conducted. No surprise to me; I doubt that there have been any. But you did make reference to foreign studies, so it seems to me that you'd be able to provide links to these. Why aren't you being forthcoming when you've made this claim?

    Let me repeat: We don't know what the effect on pubescent and/or pre-pubescent girls are. We know only that other hormonal "miracle solutions" have been in the long term for adult women, and it is upon this fact that I base my point.

    So to what part of "the pill's" long-term effects and Premarin's and RU-86's and etc. do you object? Are you seriously unable because of your pre-set views to acknowledge legit concerns over hormonal pills' effects on little girls when there is no evidence over the long term that they are safe?

    If you're genuinely concerned about women's--and little women's health--I really don't understand why you're being obstreperous here.
    I don't see any evidence of any risk posed by long-term use, and it makes no sense because MAP's aren't used on a long-term basis. They are emergency contraception.

    IOW, you're arguing something you have no evidence for, and for a mode of use (long-term) that is not only the complete opposite of its' intended use, but is highly unlikely to actually happen.

    I'd also point out that the problems with older forms of BC was due to the high levels of hormones they used that were taken on a daily basis, a situation which is not going to happen with MAPs.

    And if you were genuinely concerned with the health of these young women, you would not be so obstreperous concerning their ability to end a pregnancy that could threaten their health and their life over some fictional risk.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If you have links supporting longitudinal studies on the effects of Plan B on pubescent girls, I'd be really glad if you'd share them. I'm not informed enough to judge whether the lack of European reports indicates safety or not. If you are, link me up please.
    You've got it bass-ackwards. If you want to argue that there's a risk, then post some evidence.

    If we banned drugs because there might be a risk, then we'd have to clear the pharmacies of every drug. Goodbye statins, goodbye chemo, goodbye every life-saving drug we've developed over the last 50 years.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Again: you have posted the real established medical facts and nothing but chirping crickets from the anti-choice posters. All they can do is assume counterfactuality and then run with it.

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