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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If it is an emergency contraceptive, but is being used often, than that would indicate misuse. How often would you think misuse is for Plan B? To me, taking it more often than once every couple of months is misuse. It is supposed to be emergency contraceptive, not primary. Emergency to me is definitely less than 6 times a year.
    The article did not mention one individual who used it often or misused it in any way.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're right. I missed that

    But the person saying that is not a doctor. There is no evidence that it can cause blood clots
    I provided additional evidence that doctors say that it can cause blood clots. Granted it was after an edit, but it is there.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The article did not mention one individual who used it often or misused it in any way.
    Others do, including the one from England.

    I am saying we need to look into this. It is stupid to allow teens unlimited access when we know there is a strong possibility that young adult women are misusing this, certainly not using it just for "emergencies". Just study it, what is the problem with doing this? It won't really prevent a whole lot of teen pregnancies in that time, not given the current evidence we have on this.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Since 2009 plan b pills have been estrogen free. From this website:

    Safety
    Can I use emergency contraception even if I've been told I shouldn't use daily birth control pills?

    If your health care provider has said you should absolutely avoid estrogen, you can probably still use one of the three other types of emergency contraception: progestin-only emergency contraceptive pills (like Plan B One-Step, Next Choice One Dose, Next Choice or Levonorgestrel Tablets), ulipristal acetate (ella) or the Copper-T IUD.

    Emergency contraceptive pills ("morning after pills" or "day after pills") have no long term or serious side effects although you might experience some minor side effects.
    Emergency contraception: Women who can’t use oral contraceptives

    From this website:


    Effectiveness

    Plan B and Next Choice reduce the chance of pregnancy by 88 to 95 percent. If a hundred women have unprotected intercourse, about eight will become pregnant; if the one hundred women use Plan B, only one will become pregnant. Plan B is 89 percent effective for all women who take the pills within the first three days. Taking the pill within the first twenty-four hours may increase effectiveness to as much as 95 percent.

    Combined estrogen and progestin pills are slightly less effective than progestin-only pills. They reduce the chance of pregnancy by 75 percent.

    Ella reduces the risk of pregnancy by 98 percent. It is equally effective regardless of which day it is taken.



    Side Effects

    Progestin-only pills have few or no side effects.
    Nausea and vomiting are the most common negative effects of taking emergency contraception pills that contain both estrogen and progestin; about half the women who take them feel nauseated, and about 20 percent vomit.
    For this reason, some practitioners advise taking the pills with food or with an antinausea medication such as an over-the-counter remedy for motion sickness. Other negative effects include breast tenderness, dizziness, abdominal pain, and headaches. Using combination pills for emergency contraception may also change the timing of your next menstrual period: It may begin a few days earlier or a few days later than usual.
    http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/bo...erpt.asp?id=44
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Yep that is exactly what happens every time a prescription drug becomes over the counter.
    The insurance no longer pays for it unless a person gets a script from the doctor for a name brand perscrition drug that only available with a prescription then it is covered by the insurance usually with a co pay.
    I'll believe it when I see it. I'll be the first to apologize if HHS rewrites or rescinds its mandate and adult females now have to pay for their own morning after pills and insurance companies won't have to. I don't believe that day will ever come as long as Obama is President.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'll believe it when I see it. I'll be the first to apologize if HHS rewrites or rescinds its mandate and adult females now have to pay for their own morning after pills and insurance companies won't have to. I don't believe that day will ever come as long as Obama is President.
    Well the FDA Oked the over the counter use.
    So now women and teens without a prescription for MAPs will have to pay out of pocket for them.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I provided additional evidence that doctors say that it can cause blood clots. Granted it was after an edit, but it is there.
    Don't forget, pregnancy can cause blood clots and death too. Pregnancy has a far greater fatality rate then the pill.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    My close friend who died a few years ago from breast cancer was so upset when FDA approved Prilosec as an OTC drug.
    It was more expensive for her to buy it OTC then her insurance co pay had been.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well the FDA Oked the over the counter use.
    So now women and teens without a prescription for MAPs will have to pay out of pocket for them.
    I want to be clear here because I believe both you and Sangha are misleading and not representing what is actually happening in the US at this time.

    As I understand it, HHS mandated that the morning after pill had to be provided under insurance policies when the ACA was passed in 2010. Then, in 2011, they mandated that Catholic institutions, other than churches, had to include it in their insurance benefits plans free of charge to employees and they placed a one year moratorium on it once the Catholic mandate was challenged in court meaning it wouldn't take effect until August 2013.

    The court case, that is the subject of this thread, related to a reproductive rights organization challenging the legality of FDA mandates that any child under the age of 17 must have a prescription from a doctor in order to get the morning after pill. The court ruled that those under 17 would no longer be required to have a prescription in order to get the pill over the counter which indicates to me that prior to the court case all adult women 18 and above could get the morning after pill over the counter without a prescription.

    Are you claiming that the HHS mandate requiring that the morning after pill be covered by insurance plans only related to those who were given a prescription for the pill from their doctor, even those over 18 and above who didn't require a prescription to get the pill? Are you claiming that adult women went to the doctor to get a prescription for the morning after pill so that their insurance plan would cover it even though there is nothing in the HHS mandate that stipulates this must be done via prescription? Are you claiming that insurance companies were paying for this over the counter drug if a doctor prescribed it?

    I don't believe it.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I provided additional evidence that doctors say that it can cause blood clots. Granted it was after an edit, but it is there.
    I didn't see it and since you've been so dishonest (ex claiming that a statement from the representative of an org that claims that SSM promotes bestiality is "evidence" that Plan B can cause a blood clot) I see no point in reading any more of your links.

    You have no evidence. Just dishonest claims
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