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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And leftist ideologues apparently have no use for honesty. Point out one place where my comments referred to sex as the reason for my concern about young teens having unfettered access to the pills - you can't, because I didn't - the act is not the issue, at least not for me - my point is that there is more to the issue of a 13 yr old potentially being pregnant and her parents should know what's going on and make those kinds of decisions.
    Agreed. The act is not the issue; the pill's safety is my concern. Also, of course, the role of the parents. Not good for little girls to be making medical decisions for themselves by themselves.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm not the one who has repeatedly lied about

    1) Insurance coverage for OTC drugs
    2) Dismissing the possibility of side effect.

    That was you

    And once again, I stopped reading as soon as I saw another of your dishonest claims
    Point out one comment I posted where I claimed that insurance covers OTC drugs? I didn't. You're the one who stated it in response to my comment that the reproductive rights people and their friends in the administration and HHS will see that the pill is "free" under Obamacare.

    You really should learn to comprehend the meaning of words when used in sentence form.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Agreed. The act is not the issue; the pill's safety is my concern. Also, of course, the role of the parents. Not good for little girls to be making medical decisions for themselves by themselves.
    Do you apply the same standard for all OTC drugs, like dandruff shampoo and ointments that fight foot fungus?
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Point out one comment I posted where I claimed that insurance covers OTC drugs? I didn't.
    Another dishonest argument. I never said you claimed that insurance covers OTC drugs
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Agreed. The act is not the issue; the pill's safety is my concern. Also, of course, the role of the parents. Not good for little girls to be making medical decisions for themselves by themselves.
    Why do leftists feel that concerns about a child's health is none of a parent's concern when it relates to sex/contraceptives/abortion, no matter the age of the child? Perhaps society should reduce the age of consent for young teens - if they can biologically manage the act, they can consent to do it with whomever. For that matter, let's let 13 yr olds vote, drive cars, drink, enter into contracts - why stop at sex?

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    Re: Judge orders morning-after pill available without prescription

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There are parents who are so worried their daughters will get pregnant, they start them on depo shoots and other long term birth control as soon as their first menstrual cycle. I think that that is nuts. At least this is a little more practical.

    And the sooner you take it, the better.
    Right! Putting the morning after pill right next to the chewing gum is a great idea!

    At least the long term BC you first mentioned is administered by a doctor.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Judge orders morning-after pill available without prescription

    From a December 2011 LA TIMES article:

    Side effects of Plan B include nausea, which 1 in 4 women experience, and, less frequently, vomiting, abdominal pain, dizziness and breast tenderness. But beyond those immediate effects, doctors say Plan B is extremely safe and effective. "There are no medical contraindications, and it doesn't interact with other drugs," Chen says.

    One reason it's safe is that, even though Plan B is similar to birth control pills, it has no estrogen in it only levonorgestrel, a progestin hormone. That means Plan B does not carry the risks of blood clots that pills containing estrogen do. Also, Plan B is a single dose drug, not something women take every day (or nearly every day).

    Advocates say that restricting access to emergency contraception leaves young teens facing unwanted pregnancy. Nearly 750,00 girls aged 15-19 get pregnant each year in the US, and 59% of those pregnancies are carried to birth. "It's preposterous to allow a teen to become pregnant when there is a safe, nontoxic method to prevent that from happening," says Corinne Rocca, a researcher at UCSF's Bixby Center for Global Reproductive Health.

    Similar products are available over-the-counter in other countries, such as Belgium, Sweden, the Netherlands, South Africa and Thailand with no specific age restrictions. In Britain, France, Australia and China, emergency contraception can be purchased from pharmacists without a prescription but is kept behind the counter, as it is in the U.S.

    In Britain, buyers have to be at least 16. In France and Belgium, the medication is provided free of charge for girls younger than 18 without an age restriction.
    A look at the controversy over Plan B pill access - Los Angeles Times
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Another dishonest argument. I never said you claimed that insurance covers OTC drugs
    People who realize that their position and emotionalism are not supported by the facts will often make things up

    For example, they'll imagine that OTC drugs are covered by health insurance
    .

    Do you deny posting the above in your comment #188?

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Point out one comment I posted where I claimed that insurance covers OTC drugs? I didn't. You're the one who stated it in response to my comment that the reproductive rights people and their friends in the administration and HHS will see that the pill is "free" under Obamacare.

    You really should learn to comprehend the meaning of words when used in sentence form.
    Do you not consider "Obamacare" as insurance? All the Republicans that pushed that approach - in fact, insisted on it - would disagree with you.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I wouldn't be too worried about the cost angle - the reproductive rights people who brought this case and their friends in the Obama administration and HHS will ensure that the pills are "free" under Obamacare - just an extension of the "Fluke" rule.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Do you not consider "Obamacare" as insurance? All the Republicans that pushed that approach - in fact, insisted on it - would disagree with you.
    There's a difference between my assertion that the Obama administration and their friends in the reproduction rights lobby will ensure that the morning after pill is covered under Obamacare and all OTC drugs being covered by insurance. I appreciate that Sangha is too dishonest to admit it but if you're going to jump in and defend his position, you should at least know what you're talking about.

    Just to be clear, HHS has already mandated that the morning after pill has to be covered by insurance policies and was enforced on Catholic institutions during the Sandra Fluke controversy. The article attached refers to just that point. It's why the mandate is being challenged in court.

    Contraceptives and the ACA: Going over the Mandate Cliff | Cato Institute

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