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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yes, many teens are able to understand these things. For the ones that can information is key. Purposefully stupifying them is not going to stop them from figuring out how to stick tab A into slot B. Most dimwitted animals can figure that one out without instruction. Not being able to consent does not mean you are incapable of understanding anything. If a kid is that stupid it probably comes from the reality their parents helped out with making them that way. Stupid id the worst protection.
    Most aren't. Many adults don't really understand that they shouldn't be using Plan B as primary birth control and they still do it.

    I'm not suggesting "stupifying" them, but rather educating them. Forcing them to ask an adult to get the Plan B for them so there is a bigger chance of them getting information about it rather than allowing them easy access. If it is really allowed OTC, then there is no one required to tell them any side effects of it, at all.

    Information is the best protection. This is not the way to spread information about the best methods of protecting from unintended pregnancies.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Reading some on this, a real concern is that the MAP may convince that condoms are not that important. MAPs don't do one iota to prevent STDs.
    Again, this runs into ignorance promoted by society. When you hide things from people it is only natural that they will make mistakes because they do not have proper information. People will still make mistakes with the right information, but those mistakes will be on their shoulders. There is no reason to exacerbate the problem by making people who would not make the mistake too ignorant to make the proper decision.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Because the position plays into the hands of Conservatives and they are the enemy.........................
    I'm only slightly conservative. Maybe reading some of my earlier posts on this thread of this subject may help before making blanket assumptions.

    I am all about comprehensive sex education and parents teaching their children in depth about sex at appropriate ages, just as my mother did for me and my siblings. I am completely for birth control and even Plan B, just not allowing unlimited access to them by teens. There needs to be a chance for an adult to step in and having a conversation about having responsible sex.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    I've heard of patients calling and asking if they could take Plan B prior to a weekend of partying assuming that they could not get pregnant within a 3 day period. The pharmacist had to explain to her that it is used as emergency contraception after the fact and should not be used prior to unprotected sex as a form of primary birth control. I've heard of some female patients ask if it would make their breasts grow larger or regulate their period.

    Even if it is made OTC for everyone I still think it needs to be behind the pharmacy counter with conditions for safe use and counselling being provided before someone can purchase it. I also think that the parent/guardian should have to sign off on it as well if the girl is a minor and that it should not be dispensed to men.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most aren't. Many adults don't really understand that they shouldn't be using Plan B as primary birth control and they still do it.

    I'm not suggesting "stupifying" them, but rather educating them. Forcing them to ask an adult to get the Plan B for them so there is a bigger chance of them getting information about it rather than allowing them easy access. If it is really allowed OTC, then there is no one required to tell them any side effects of it, at all.

    Information is the best protection. This is not the way to spread information about the best methods of protecting from unintended pregnancies.
    You just said many adults cannot make the proper choice, and then that you expect adults to make the right choice. you cannot have it both ways. BTW yes children can understand those things. keeping the information from them because you don't like the idea they have sex makes sure that the ones who can understand it are not able to make a decision based on the information you kept from them. You have wasted nothing by giving the information to them, but you will enable some to make the right choice.

    Oh, and the side effects are listed on the product just like many other OTC medications.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'm only slightly conservative. Maybe reading some of my earlier posts on this thread of this subject may help before making blanket assumptions.

    I am all about comprehensive sex education and parents teaching their children in depth about sex at appropriate ages, just as my mother did for me and my siblings. I am completely for birth control and even Plan B, just not allowing unlimited access to them by teens. There needs to be a chance for an adult to step in and having a conversation about having responsible sex.
    yeah, there is a chance, it is called parenting. Unfortunately it is hard to talk to your kids about sex so many parents chose not to. There still should be nothing stopping them from going to their kids and explaining it to them ASAP.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    You just said many adults cannot make the proper choice, and then that you expect adults to make the right choice. you cannot have it both ways. BTW yes children can understand those things. keeping the information from them because you don't like the idea they have sex makes sure that the ones who can understand it are not able to make a decision based on the information you kept from them. You have wasted nothing by giving the information to them, but you will enable some to make the right choice.

    Oh, and the side effects are listed on the product just like many other OTC medications.
    When its for their children they are more likely to actually care about potential side effects than when its for themselves, particularly when the adults misusing it aren't likely to have their own teens, since they are in their twenties.

    Most teens don't fully understand, even if they are capable of doing so. Most teens won't even care to actually check it out. And some may figure they will only do it once, then once becomes twice, twice becomes every other week. Laziness does come into play here to at least a degree.

    This isn't like other OTCs. Other OTCs generally aren't something that requires a prescription to get a smaller dose just more doses in the package.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'm only slightly conservative. Maybe reading some of my earlier posts on this thread of this subject may help before making blanket assumptions.

    I am all about comprehensive sex education and parents teaching their children in depth about sex at appropriate ages, just as my mother did for me and my siblings. I am completely for birth control and even Plan B, just not allowing unlimited access to them by teens. There needs to be a chance for an adult to step in and having a conversation about having responsible sex.
    When "children" start having sex, they are the adults in the room................I know that's hard for alot of people to wrap their heads around..........................

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    yeah, there is a chance, it is called parenting. Unfortunately it is hard to talk to your kids about sex so many parents chose not to. There still should be nothing stopping them from going to their kids and explaining it to them ASAP.
    Which has what to do with this issue? Nothing is lost by forcing teens to have an adult, preferably a parent, relative, and/or legal guardian/medical professional get them Plan B rather than giving them unlimited access. Nothing that can be proven since you can't prove that Plan B reduces unwanted pregnancies overall.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    When "children" start having sex, they are the adults in the room................I know that's hard for alot of people to wrap their heads around..........................
    No, they aren't adults just because they start having sex. They are still teenagers, emotionally, physically, mentally, even legally.
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