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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    This seems to fit here, but not worth a new thread (or maybe it is)

    A rape victim who was arrested after reporting her attack to the Tampa police can sue the prison employee who refused to allow her access to a contraception pill due to religious beliefs, a federal court has ruled.

    The victim, who is only identified as R.W. in court records, visited Tampa’s Rape Crisis Center on Jan. 27, 2007 where a "rape kit” procedure was performed and she was given two contraception pills. The doctor instructed her to take one pill immediately and the second one 12 hours later.

    R.W. then reported her rape to Tampa police and was arrested after it was discovered she was wanted for failure to appear and failure to pay restitution on a previous charge.

    When R.W. requested her second contraception pill the next morning, Hillsborough County Jail employee Michele Spinelli refused on religious grounds.

    Court: Rape victim can sue after being arrested and denied contraception | The Raw Story

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Here is the deal for people who have no clue how pregnancy or the body works. By the time the guy knows she is pregnant the plan B pill doesn't work. You are talking about 5 days from intercourse for it to have effect. By the time you realize you are late and get to the doctor for a real test you pretty much are out of time on Plan B. Plan B is supposed to be taken as a precaution after unprotected sex if you are close to that time of month when you could become pregnant. According to the function of the drug it delays ovulation to the point to which the sperm can no longer fertilize the egg. The pill doesn't create an abortion despite the claims of the crazy right.

    Don't take my word on it, go learn for yourself about it instead of spouting the paranoid nonsense that comes from Akin type of stupid. The Morning-After Pill - Emergency Contraception - Cost & Info

    Also, we already have laws regarding giving someone medication without their knowledge or consent. Yes, it is a felony to do so. Of course, if guys are terribly worried about getting a girl pregnant they can go the much cheaper and easier route and get a damned condom. With the pill costing between 10 and 70 dollars per dose and not protecting against STDs a condom is a far better solution than trying to slip her something afterwards.

    Please, educate yourself because you look pretty ignorant and paranoid when you spout stuff that doesn't even make sense.
    So we are saying that teens, who for the most part cannot legally consent to sex (particularly with an adult) or to many other things, are able to consent to understanding everything they are told from a random pharmacist, or worse a pamphlet they don't even have to read about the drug they are using? Yeah, sounds reasonable to me.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So we are saying that teens, who for the most part cannot legally consent to sex (particularly with an adult) or to many other things, are able to consent to understanding everything they are told from a random pharmacist, or worse a pamphlet they don't even have to read about the drug they are using? Yeah, sounds reasonable to me.
    So what is your response to your teenage daughter confessing to giving it up to some modern day sleazebag ?.............Jesus loves little babies ?....................

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So we are saying that teens, who for the most part cannot legally consent to sex (particularly with an adult) or to many other things, are able to consent to understanding everything they are told from a random pharmacist, or worse a pamphlet they don't even have to read about the drug they are using? Yeah, sounds reasonable to me.
    i see your point
    that is much worse than the young woman giving birth to a child she doesn't want
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Reading some on this, a real concern is that the MAP may convince that condoms are not that important. MAPs don't do one iota to prevent STDs.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    So what is your response to your teenage daughter confessing to giving it up to some modern day sleazebag ?.............Jesus loves little babies ?....................
    "Did you use protection? Are you on birth control? Lets get you some Plan B then take you to the doctor to get you tested and put on birth control. Hopefully you aren't like me and limited in what you can use." This would be followed by many discussions about sex, safe sex, relationships, preventing pregnancy responsibly, facts, etc.

    Oh, did you assume that I am against Plan B altogether just because I am against allowing teens unlimited access to it?
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't even know what DXM is.
    nearly every "cough" medicine you purchase has DXM in it. It stands for dextromethorphan hydrobromide. From what i know it does not have any actual curative value. It is a powerful dissasociative that makes you feel more comfortable at low doses. At higher doses the stuff is probably one of the more powerful psychoactive drugs around. It has effects similar to ketamine and PCP though it is potentially much safer due to the way tit works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    IF benedryl is harmful, at least the kids took it with my permission and I probably bought it for them.
    Benedryl, or dyphenhydromine hydrochloride, is a common ingredient in allergy medications, OTC sleeping pills, and I do believe it is also used for motion sickness medications which are also OTC. It will actually cause visual hallucinations at fairly minimal doses. From what i have seen the effects start around 3-5 times the recommended dosage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Somehow letting 14 and 15 year old girls who supposedly are minors and under their parents control, responsibility walk into a drug store and buy the morning after pill with out the knowledge of those who are suppose to take care of them, it just don't seem right.
    The morning after pill is not being abused for the sake of entertainment. Also, if you are really worried about your child doing this get them some regular Birth control. The only people who would abuse these things are those whos parents keep them deliberately ignorant so they seek out stupid solutions. You do not need the morning after pill if you already are on BC and using it properly. parents who are truly worried about these things could easily bring their daughters in to be presented with some actual information instead of just being silent about it and hoping their teen gets the right information from their stupid friends, or some comic book, or whatever they hope will educate their kids for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Of course having sex that young doesn't seem right to me, although I assume it is perfectly alright with you. After all they have the morning after pill.
    things happen and kids have sex. One of the reasons many kids do things is because it is taboo. Not telling them about things does not prevent them from doing it. The only thing it does is prevbent them from using any information in making their choices, and it leads to them keeping everything a secret from their parents until it is too late. I would personally rather my daughter delayed ovulation for a few days to prevent pregnancy than to have to deal with a pregnancy. It is one thing to have sex and deal with the emotional crap that comes from teenage love. It is another thing to be saddled with a child when you are a teen. It is still another realm of stupid to hope your kids don't have sex. That is unless your kid is really ugly.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i see your point
    that is much worse than the young woman giving birth to a child she doesn't want
    It could considering both could happen. If a teen starts to rely on Plan B as primary birth control, it is more than possible that she can't afford it one time when she needs it, after having sex, and ends up pregnant.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So we are saying that teens, who for the most part cannot legally consent to sex (particularly with an adult) or to many other things, are able to consent to understanding everything they are told from a random pharmacist, or worse a pamphlet they don't even have to read about the drug they are using? Yeah, sounds reasonable to me.
    Yes, many teens are able to understand these things. For the ones that can information is key. Purposefully stupifying them is not going to stop them from figuring out how to stick tab A into slot B. Most dimwitted animals can figure that one out without instruction. Not being able to consent does not mean you are incapable of understanding anything. If a kid is that stupid it probably comes from the reality their parents helped out with making them that way. Stupid id the worst protection.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    "Did you use protection? Are you on birth control? Lets get you some Plan B then take you to the doctor to get you tested and put on birth control. Hopefully you aren't like me and limited in what you can use." This would be followed by many discussions about sex, safe sex, relationships, preventing pregnancy responsibly, facts, etc.

    Oh, did you assume that I am against Plan B altogether just because I am against allowing teens unlimited access to it?
    Because the position plays into the hands of Conservatives and they are the enemy.........................

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