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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I am against this. There are so many problems with this and really no benefit to it.

    We have young adults who are starting to use Plan B as primary birth control. Teenagers are even more likely to do this. (I personally know someone who used Plan B as her primary form of birth control, couldn't afford it in time and got pregnant.)

    Plus, teens are the responsibility of their parents. Their health is their parents' concern til they are out on their own. Plus, parents are more likely to know about possible problems that could come up with conditions a teen may have than the teen themselves, especially when it comes to some of the disorders/diseases that aren't really a big deal except when it comes to adding certain hormones to your body (I have one of those, why I'm limited on what BC I can use). Teens don't think about all these things, parents are more likely to think of these things.

    I have no issue with Plan B, nor even with teenagers having sex. I think teens should be encouraged and taught safe sexual practices. Allowing easy access to this pill means that teens, who are notoriously lazy, irresponsible, and/or concerned about disappointing their parents are likely to be prone to use Plan B as primary birth control rather than the emergency birth control it is meant to be.

    Evidence of misuse being common of Plan B.

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    and those parents who you want to be able to prohibit access to this morning after solution are always in the position to supply their children with birth control devices to avoid the need for the morning after pill
    that they didn't do so, out of choice or ignorance, should not serve to deny the potentially pregnant teen access to the necessary birth control device
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    The fewer unwanted children and teenage mothers the better.
    And that is the heart of the matter/ Either you are in favor of teenagers having either unwanted children or abortions or not. I believe this ruling will reduce the already low abortion rate even lower. Safe, legal and RARE. Let's call this settled and move on. This is the 21th Century.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And that is the heart of the matter/ Either you are in favor of teenagers having either unwanted children or abortions or not. I believe this ruling will reduce the already low abortion rate even lower. Safe, legal and RARE. Let's call this settled and move on. This is the 21th Century.
    Didn't someone just post data that directly challanged that popular notion?

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know what's right or wrong with this issue, but it sure makes a person feel sad about the depths to which our society has sunk when people are going to court so young teens can get abortion pills.
    The morning after pill prevents ovulation and keeps an egg from being fertilized. If fertilization has already taken place the morning after pill does not keep it from implanting nor does it cause an abortion of an implanted zygote/embryo.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The morning after pill prevents ovulation and keeps an egg from being fertilized. If fertilization has already taken place the morning after pill does not keep it from implanting nor does it cause an abortion of an implanted zygote/embryo.
    Facts. They are to conservatives what crucifixes are to vampires.

    Nonetheless, watch, they will continue to promote their counerfactual claims. It's all they got.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, that's wrong, as I pointed out. It's rather stupid to bemoan the state of the world where young people engage in sex, and then say, but I don't want to teach them about it.
    Teaching your children is your responsibility first as a parent. There is nothing wrong with holding to the idea that schools are there to prepare children for a career and the parents are there to prepare them for life.

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and those parents who you want to be able to prohibit access to this morning after solution are always in the position to supply their children with birth control devices to avoid the need for the morning after pill
    that they didn't do so, out of choice or ignorance, should not serve to deny the potentially pregnant teen access to the necessary birth control device
    Or the parents didn't feel comfortable talking to their children about sex so were putting it off. Just because a parent doesn't talk to their child about sex before the kid tries it, doesn't mean the parent won't talk to them about sex ever, especially not if they feel there might have been a pregnancy scare that required Plan B. People aren't perfect, they don't fit into perfect little boxes about how they act or how good of parents they are.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Teaching your children is your responsibility first as a parent. There is nothing wrong with holding to the idea that schools are there to prepare children for a career and the parents are there to prepare them for life.
    Psssst: conservatives are whining that it's not working and that the country is wallowing in teen sex (not true, but who am I to question such an enticing meme?) So time to go to Plan B. How's this for a concept: teach kids about sexuality and its consequences! And use professionals.

    Wow, what a concept -- education!

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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and those parents who you want to be able to prohibit access to this morning after solution are always in the position to supply their children with birth control devices to avoid the need for the morning after pill
    that they didn't do so, out of choice or ignorance, should not serve to deny the potentially pregnant teen access to the necessary birth control device
    Oh, and I'd also like to point out that I am not suggesting that only parents have the ability to give teens access to Plan B. Parents should be informed, but it could be many different adults that are allowed to buy Plan B for a teen, as long as it is an adult. This at least gives a stronger possibility that misuse/abuse of Plan B is identified and gives another, older person the ability to step in and make suggestions to better alternatives than using Plan B as primary BC.
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    Re: Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have a bad feeling about this one.

    My concern is someone else putting it in a woman's food to cause losing a ZEF she wants or to prevent pregnancy to begin with - her not even knowing. People not only can go crazy to try to prevent an abortion, other people also can go crazy trying to terminate someone else's pregnancy.

    I'd prefer it be 1.) be behind the counter and 2.) limited to sales to females and 3.) a record kept of anyone who buys it.

    There also needs to be INTENSELY harsh laws passed about giving this to someone without the person's knowledge. Some men and some parents totally freak out learning their girlfriend, mistress or daughter is pregnant. I see potential problems. A women likely wouldn't even known why she lost the ZEF thinking it just a miscarriage. In regards to ZEFs, its like selling cyanide pills OTC. Just slip one to any woman and end a pregnancy she wants, but you don't, in the learn stage. Or even routinely without her knowledge to avoid it happening in the first place. There also is the question of what happens if someone takes a lot of them or slips someone a lot of them at the same time.

    For those reasons I'm not fond of that ruling. Those all are not only very legitimate health concerns, but also assault concerns.
    Here is the deal for people who have no clue how pregnancy or the body works. By the time the guy knows she is pregnant the plan B pill doesn't work. You are talking about 5 days from intercourse for it to have effect. By the time you realize you are late and get to the doctor for a real test you pretty much are out of time on Plan B. Plan B is supposed to be taken as a precaution after unprotected sex if you are close to that time of month when you could become pregnant. According to the function of the drug it delays ovulation to the point to which the sperm can no longer fertilize the egg. The pill doesn't create an abortion despite the claims of the crazy right.

    Don't take my word on it, go learn for yourself about it instead of spouting the paranoid nonsense that comes from Akin type of stupid. The Morning-After Pill - Emergency Contraception - Cost & Info

    Also, we already have laws regarding giving someone medication without their knowledge or consent. Yes, it is a felony to do so. Of course, if guys are terribly worried about getting a girl pregnant they can go the much cheaper and easier route and get a damned condom. With the pill costing between 10 and 70 dollars per dose and not protecting against STDs a condom is a far better solution than trying to slip her something afterwards.

    Please, educate yourself because you look pretty ignorant and paranoid when you spout stuff that doesn't even make sense.

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