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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Link 4 Dude. BUSH WASNT IN OFFICE YET! June 23, 2000? Bush was placing blame on the guy in office at the time, why the hell would Bush take blame when he wasnt President yet. Nice self own there.
    LOL - Bush was such a powerful man that he deserves blame for all that is bad in the administration after his, as well as the one before!

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    a 2% reduction in medicare, yet the clinic mentioned in the op is cutting 1/3 of their medicare patients.

    profits over patients.
    You would prefer they go out of business and cut 3/3 of their medicare patients?

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You would prefer they go out of business and cut 3/3 of their medicare patients?
    the numbers don't add up here for this clinic.

    2% less money from medicare results in a 33% reduction in medicare patients seen.

    sounds like profits first to me.

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't see how you can possibly claim the sequestration was wrong when it is basically the first time in US history when a bill was passed that included reductions in spending that are actually being realized. US history is repleat with bills to raise taxes and reduce spending and the only thing that gets implemented is the tax increases, the spending cuts conveniently get forgotten.

    It's good for Americans to see that they can actually cut spending and that sometimes it hurts - it might give them some respect for the taxpayers' dollars and they might just start to hate wasteful spending in the future.
    Because it was not thought through and Obama never thought it would pass the house. Some 750,00 jobs will be lost and that is not good for this fragile economy. Plus alot of really poor people will be hurt. I'm not opposed to cutting spending but this was ridiculous IMO
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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the numbers don't add up here for this clinic.

    2% less money from medicare results in a 33% reduction in medicare patients seen.

    sounds like profits first to me.
    Profits are what are required to keep a business functioning. If a 2 percent reduction in Medicare cuts into the margin enough that it means that 33 percent of patients cannot be seen without running the clinic into bankruptcy (see OP), then, well, yeah. Your choice is one third or three thirds.

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Profits are what are required to keep a business functioning. If a 2 percent reduction in Medicare cuts into the margin enough that it means that 33 percent of patients cannot be seen without running the clinic into bankruptcy (see OP), then, well, yeah. Your choice is one third or three thirds.
    i would suggest that medicare patients are a drag on profits and using the "sequester BS" is an easy way to shed less profitable patients, medicare patients..

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Because it was not thought through and Obama never thought it would pass the house. Some 750,00 jobs will be lost and that is not good for this fragile economy. Plus alot of really poor people will be hurt. I'm not opposed to cutting spending but this was ridiculous IMO
    Really? Obama was just playing games with the lives of the American people? Gee, that sounds like a really mature, adult, serious man occupying the White House. I can't imagine why you voted to reelect such a loser.

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Because it was not thought through and
    Obama never thought it would pass
    the house. Some 750,00 jobs will be lost and that is not good for this fragile economy. Plus alot of really poor people will be hurt. I'm not opposed to cutting spending but this was ridiculous IMO
    The GOP gave him a chance to target non-essential programs

    But BO needed to demagogue the issue instead

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    i would suggest that medicare patients are a drag on profits and using the "sequester BS" is an easy way to shed less profitable patients, medicare patients..
    If those patients couldn't be served at cost before, then they would already likely have not been. You don't shed profitable patients; and so when Medicare reductions in reimbursements make patients unprofitable, they take away those patients access to care. There is no such thing as a free lunch, no matter how much we may wish to legislate ourselves one.

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    Re: Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequest

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it would be more fair to say Obama over-estimated the congress
    sequestration was put forth as a proposal that would be so abhorrent the congress would never allow it to occur
    but they did
    and now medicare is faced with a shortfall of funds to provide the care our citizens require
    so, congress did not pass a budget and you lay the blame on Obama. weird
    I don't think many are concerned with what's fair. Throwing the blame on one side will be the game now.

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