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U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%[W: 831]

Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

Conservative said:
Obama is the most incompetent person to ever hold the office, he lacked the experience and leadership skills for the job and his performance shows it. Far too many people lack an understanding of leadership skills and simply buy the rhetoric. There isn't a President in history that took office with the good will of Obama and he failed miserably. His "my way or the highway" approach because of his overwhelming numbers generated the results we have today where are a total disaster. We have a labor force of 155 million and 143 million employed vs. a labor force of 153 million and 146 million employed when the recession began. To get those numbers he has added over 6 trillion to the debt. There are record numbers on taxpayer assistance and his transformation of America into a European model is a disaster yet he continues to get people to buy his rhetoric.
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He's not as incompetent as most Republican presidents...

Here's a list of presidents, along with the level of increase, or decrease, of the U3 unemployment rate after 50 months in office... Unemployment has not increased for any Democrat president and only 1 Republican president lowered it.


Clinton -2.1 -29%
Johnson -2.0 -35%
Kennedy** -1.2 -14%
Reagan -0.3 -4%
Obama -0.2 -3%
Carter*** 0.0 0%
Eisenhower +0.8 +28%
Bush +1.0 +24%
Nixon +1.5 +44%
GHW Bush*** +1.9 +35%
Ford* +2.0 +36%

* = in office 29 months

** = in office 34 months

*** = in office 48 months


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data​
 
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Conservative said:
Do you realize that percentage change means very little when you are talking about those kind of numbers. My preference and of course the government's preference would be to have the 958 billion dollars and 18 plus million new employees than having the 532 billion
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18 million new employees??

By what measurement?

Not by CPS data:
Jan/81: 99,955,000
Jan/89: 116,708,000
TOTAL: 16,753,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

And not by CES data:
Jan/81: 91,031,000
Jan/89: 107,133,000
TOTAL: 16,102,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
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Conservative said:
Sorry, but economic conditions affect job creation as well as tax revenue and the reality is the only way to compare is actual dollars during the times and not comparing 2013 to 1980 or any other period of time. Revenue and expenses were generated and paid in 1980 dollars just like revenue and expenses today are paid in 2013 dollars. This is a typical ploy on the part of liberals who want to try and justify the mess we are in today and to try and sell their failed ideology. Reagan cut taxes three years in a row and had a 60% increase in tax revenue created due to improving economic activity and job creation. Obama should take a lesson from that period of time
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Sorry, but comparing 1980's dollars with 1970's dollars as though they were equal is at best, worthless; and at worst, dishonest.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
It certainly did in the 2012 election.
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Yes, it did. And the American people are now more trillions in debt with nothing to show for it. It really doesn't say much for the Obamaphone electorate.
 
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Grant said:
Yes, it did. And the American people are now more trillions in debt with nothing to show for it. It really doesn't say much for the Obamaphone electorate.
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What moronic thing to say, do you really believe that BS? :roll:
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
He's not as incompetent as most Republican presidents...

Here's a list of presidents, along with the level of increase, or decrease, of the U3 unemployment rate after 50 months in office... Unemployment has not increased for any Democrat president and only 1 Republican president lowered it.


Clinton -2.1 -29%
Johnson -2.0 -35%
Kennedy** -1.2 -14%
Reagan -0.3 -4%
Obama -0.2 -3%
Carter*** 0.0 0%
Eisenhower +0.8 +28%
Bush +1.0 +24%
Nixon +1.5 +44%
GHW Bush*** +1.9 +35%
Ford* +2.0 +36%

* = in office 29 months

** = in office 34 months

*** = in office 48 months


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data​
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22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers say you are wrong,
 
Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Sorry, but comparing 1980's dollars with 1970's dollars as though they were equal is at best, worthless; and at worst, dishonest.
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Debt service is paid in current dollars and debt service is the fourth largest budget item. Glad you are happy with Obama's performance. Obama is responsible for 6 trillion dollars in less than 5 years. He has indeed transformed America into a European model with high unemployment, high debt, greater govt. dependence, and low economic growth
 
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pbrauer said:
What moronic thing to say, do you really believe that BS? :roll:
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Another liberal who doesn't care that the debt service is the fourth largest budget item and we get nothing for it.
 
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I wonder and will always wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and removes the ability to think from so many? In addition why do so many liberals have a problem with getting the actual results and cannot admit when they are wrong

Poverty Plagues Obama
 
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Grant said:
Yes, it did. And the American people are now more trillions in debt with nothing to show for it.
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We would have been trillions more in debt no matter who won the election. In case you missed it, Bush drove up our deficits to over a trillion dollars and wrecked the economy before crawling out of office.

Oh, and by the way, Reagan started the Lifeline program to hand out phones to the needy. So they're really ReaganPhones, not ObamaPhones.
 
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Conservative said:
22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers say you are wrong,
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First of all, that number is 21 million...

And secondly, your hero, Bush, left Obama with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers! :shock: And that was after starting with 10 million himself. :shock:

That number increases from 10 million to 22 million under Bush -- you applaud Bush

That number decreases under Obama from 22 million to 21 million -- you call Obama one of the worst presidents in history.

Yep, You're a Conservative all right.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
First of all, that number is 21 million...

And secondly, your hero, Bush, left Obama with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers! :shock: And that was after starting with 10 million himself. :shock:

That number increases from 10 million to 22 million under Bush -- you applaud Bush

That number decreases under Obama from 22 million to 21 million -- you call Obama one of the worst presidents in history.

Yep, You're a Conservative all right.
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Fact, 500,000 dropped out of the labor force last month, fact there are 143 million Americans employed today whereas there were 146 million employed when the recession began. By all measureable results Obama is a disaster. 155 million in the labor force today and 143 million employed. In December 2007 there were 153 million in the labor force and 146 million employed. Reality is a bitch, isn't it?
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
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e's not as incompetent as most Republican presidents...

Here's a list of presidents, along with the level of increase, or decrease, of the U3 unemployment rate after 50 months in office... Unemployment has not increased for any Democrat president and only 1 Republican president lowered it.


Clinton -2.1 -29%
Johnson -2.0 -35%
Kennedy** -1.2 -14%
Reagan -0.3 -4%
Obama -0.2 -3%
Carter*** 0.0 0%
Eisenhower +0.8 +28%
Bush +1.0 +24%
Nixon +1.5 +44%
GHW Bush*** +1.9 +35%
Ford* +2.0 +36%

* = in office 29 months

** = in office 34 months

*** = in office 48 months


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data​
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You know, if you have to publicly lie to defend an ideology or a President, your'e still left with a crappy ideology and/or President.

Obama's either incompetent or he's purposely destroting the economy. Its your choice.

EVERY thing hes done with the exception of killing Bin Laden has been a failure. And he wouldn't have gotten ro him if not for Bush's enhanced interrogation programs.
 
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Conservative said:
Fact, 500,000 dropped out of the labor force last month, fact there are 143 million Americans employed today whereas there were 146 million employed when the recession began. By all measureable results Obama is a disaster. 155 million in the labor force today and 143 million employed. In December 2007 there were 153 million in the labor force and 146 million employed. Reality is a bitch, isn't it?
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You mean reality like you dishonestly inflating the U6 number from 21 million to 22 million? Or did you mean the reality of you ridiculously complain about Obama lowering that number from Bush, who himself more than foubled it?

Oh, and by the way, the trend of a declining workforce began when Bush took office. But that's Obama's fault too, right?
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
First of all, that number is 21 million...

And secondly, your hero, Bush, left Obama with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers! :shock: And that was after starting with 10 million himself. :shock:

That number increases from 10 million to 22 million under Bush -- you applaud Bush

That number decreases under Obama from 22 million to 21 million -- you call Obama one of the worst presidents in history.

Yep, You're a Conservative all right.
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It wasn't " Bush" who left Obama with anything.

Educate yourself on the causes of the sub-prime debacle before making a generic blanket statement .

There is always enough time for speficifics
 
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Fenton said:
You know, if you have to publicly lie to defend an ideology or a President, your'e still left with a crappy ideology and/or President.

Obama's either incompetent or he's purposely destroting the economy. Its your choice.

EVERY thing hes done with the exception of killing Bin Laden has been a failure. And he wouldn't have gotten ro him if not for Bush's enhanced interrogation programs.
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And yet, as that chart shows, Obama is doing a better job with umemployment than every Republican president except for Reagan. Were all those Republican presidents purposefully destroying the economy?
 
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Fenton said:
It wasn't " Bush" who left Obama with anything.

Educate yourself on the causes of the sub-prime debacle before making a generic blanket statement .

There is always enough time for speficifics
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Umm, then why did Bush take credit for it?

"Thanks to our policies, home ownership is at an all-time high." - George Bush; 2004 RNC acceptance speech
 
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Fenton said:
It wasn't " Bush" who left Obama with anything.

Educate yourself on the causes of the sub-prime debacle before making a generic blanket statement .

There is always enough time for speficifics
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In his own words.....

 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
You mean reality like you dishonestly inflating the U6 number from 21 million to 22 million? Or did you mean the reality of you ridiculously complain about Obama lowering that number from Bush, who himself more than foubled it?

Oh, and by the way, the trend of a declining workforce began when Bush took office. But that's Obama's fault too, right?
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I am not going to play your game anymore. you are supporting an incompetent as the numbers show. He has been in office for going on five years and the numbers speak for themselves. Bush isn't in office, Clinton isn't in office, GHW Bush isn't in office, Reagan isn't in office so this is the Obama economy and the Obama results. You choose to give him a pass and ignore the results. Your choice and your failures.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
And yet, as that chart shows, Obama is doing a better job
with umemployment than every Republican president except for Reagan. Were all those Republican presidents purposefully destroying the economy?
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Not exactly. Why do you liberals lie ? Just in general. Is it pathological ?

Because you have OF-COURSE not mentioned the 9 million jobs that have dissppeared all together, or the underemployed.

You stick to a one dimensional chart with no indepth analysys because you apparently think everyone is as dumb as your average Obama supporter.

Truth is the jobs market is in a tail spin. 500k dropped out last month alone.

So quit LYING, or take your BS to the Democrat Underground where the cummalitive IQ is 27
 
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Conservative said:
I wonder and will always wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and removes the ability to think from so many? In addition why do so many liberals have a problem with getting the actual results and cannot admit when they are wrong

Poverty Plagues Obama
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People had and have the same loyalty towards Communism, Fascism, Nazism, the Monarchy and so on.

They just believe and nothing can dissuade them from reality, until its too late.
 
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Conservative said:
I am not going to play your game anymore. you are supporting an incompetent as the numbers show. He has been in office for going on five years and the numbers speak for themselves. Bush isn't in office, Clinton isn't in office, GHW Bush isn't in office, Reagan isn't in office so this is the Obama economy and the Obama results. You choose to give him a pass and ignore the results. Your choice and your failures.
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And after 4 years in office, the economy is better than it was when Bush handed the keys to the White House to Obama.
 
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