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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Graph: Labor Force Participation Rate in the United States (USALFPRNA) - FRED - St. Louis Fed

    Attachment 67146022

    The graph did not allow for later data. ARRA didnt change the particpation rate by much, if at all.
    Obama administration claims they saved existing jobs which is something that no one can really count but rather can only give opinions about.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When did I say my analysis was fact, only the data posted is fact and you already acknowledgedthe data was accurate. I love the excuses Obama supporters make for the data always blaming someone else and never placing any blame on the leader in charge.
    And where did I say OBama was not to blame for anything?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama administration claims they saved existing jobs which is something that no one can really count but rather can only give opinions about.
    Much like the right did with Bush when they said Kerry would be worse. They can only give their opinions to justify Bush's failures.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    In other words, you cant back it up. Thanks.
    I offered to answer as soon as you place the same scrutiny to the right.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    While I don't agree with it, the standard that the stimulus was successful was their opinion that MORE jobs would have been lost if not done. I don't agree with it, but it is every much an opinion just like those that say we would have been better off without the stimulus. There is no way to prove any side wrong since both are essentially using opinions to justify success or failure.

    Both sides have used this excuse to justify bad numbers. The right used it when they said Kerry would have been worse than Bush to justify voting for Bush again and the left uses it when they say the economy would have been worse if the stimulus not done so they pushed it.
    So when one cannot prove something passing off an opinion as fact seems to be acceptable even though the debt has risen 6 trillion dollars since Obama took office and there are fewer employed today than when the recession began. How can anybody claim a success with those numbers?

    I voted for Bush because of the actual numbers and the Kerry record, I chose wisely.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Much like the right did with Bush when they said Kerry would be worse. They can only give their opinions to justify Bush's failures.
    Wrong, Bush had a record to run on, a record supported by data. All one had to do was look at the record and then view Kerry's voting record and the choice was clear. With Obama personality trumped a dismal record.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So when one cannot prove something passing off an opinion as fact seems to be acceptable even though the debt has risen 6 trillion dollars since Obama took office and there are fewer employed today than when the recession began. How can anybody claim a success with those numbers?
    Just like your opinion that Kerry would have been worse. You justify the failures of Bush by saying Kerry would have been worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I voted for Bush because of the actual numbers and the Kerry record, I chose wisely.
    Your opinion noted, but your partisanship shines brightly.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is it going to take for you to accept responsibility for Obama's failures. The numbers are there for all to see but you choose not to pay any attention to them. I have posted before the goals of ARRA so please tell me why YOU believe it was a success. The claim of saving jobs, how do you define a saved job? Does it make any sense for you to spend 842 billion dollars and generate the numbers he generated a year after ARRA? what is it in that Opinion piece that is wrong? There are many opinions including everything you post which you are entitled to post however factually your information is false.
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    PolitiFact Texas | President Obama says Gov. Perry used stimulus fund to help balance budget, then started 'blaming' federal lawmakers who voted for legislation


    Adam Abrams, a White House spokesman, told us that Obama was referring to stimulus funds when he said Perry plugged the budget with federal aid.

    The roughly $800 billion federal stimulus package, named the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act by Congress, became law in February 2009 after receiving only three Republican votes, all in the Senate. State governments were the primary recipients of the money, although funds have also gone directly to entities such as schools, hospitals and utilities.

    The law specified that governors had 45 days after its passage to certify that their state would "request and use" the offered funds. On Feb. 18, 2009, Perry sent Obama the requisite letter of certification, assuring the president that the state would accept the funds and use them "in the best interest of Texas taxpayers."

    According to a February 2009 PBS News Hour online post, some stimulus money was meant "to help states avoid slashing funding for education and other programs that lawmakers could trim to offset shortfalls."

    Abrams, asked for backup for the presidentís statement, pointed us to the National Conference of State Legislatures, which in turn sent us its July 2009 report on state budgets. According to the report, state budget-writing Texas lawmakers in 2009 were short $6.6 billion in revenue for 2010-11 and relied heavily on stimulus funds for a solution.


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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, Bush had a record to run on, a record supported by data. All one had to do was look at the record and then view Kerry's voting record and the choice was clear. With Obama personality trumped a dismal record.
    Oh yeah, he had a record, of going into a wrong war. Those records you don't keep running with. But because he had an R in front of his name you excused it. You wouldn't know leadership if it slapped you in the face.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh yeah, he had a record, of going into a wrong war. Those records you don't keep running with. But because he had an R in front of his name you excused it. You wouldn't know leadership if it slapped you in the face.
    Try to focus, it has been ten years since we went into Iraq and we are into Obama's fifth year. Your obsession with Bush is nothing more than a diversion from the failures of Obama

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