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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    For the numerous time, the numbers generated are not in question, your REASONING behind those number is what is in question. What is it about conservatism that creates this lack of analytical effort?
    Unlike you I Understand the responsibilities of leadership and where the blame falls for the numbers generated. That is sound reasoning that you don't understand.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    As is your complete butchering of simple timelines. Including job losses that happened in the year prior to the ARRA in your analysis of the ARRA is symbolic of either outright incompetency or brazen dishonesty. Take your pick.

    This is an opinion piece.There doesn't appear to be much in the way of macro-analysis whatsoever.
    What is it going to take for you to accept responsibility for Obama's failures. The numbers are there for all to see but you choose not to pay any attention to them. I have posted before the goals of ARRA so please tell me why YOU believe it was a success. The claim of saving jobs, how do you define a saved job? Does it make any sense for you to spend 842 billion dollars and generate the numbers he generated a year after ARRA? what is it in that Opinion piece that is wrong? There are many opinions including everything you post which you are entitled to post however factually your information is false.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unlike you I Understand the responsibilities of leadership and where the blame falls for the numbers generated. That is sound reasoning that you don't understand.
    Yeah, that's why you voted for Bush twice. Your credibility was lost long ago and you couldn't tell leadership if it slapped you in the face. You only care if there is a presient with an R in front of his name. And don't give the BS that you voted for past Dem presidents, we are talking now and your critical thinking was lost decades ago.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah, that's why you voted for Bush twice. Your credibility was lost long ago and you couldn't tell leadership if it slapped you in the face. You only care if there is a presient with an R in front of his name. And don't give the BS that you voted for past Dem presidents, we are talking now and your critical thinking was lost decades ago.
    My logic for voting for Bush is sound, the choice was Gore and Kerry and the results in 2004 warranted four more years, results you want to ignore.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My logic for voting for Bush is sound, the choice was Gore and Kerry and the results in 2004 warranted four more years, results you want to ignore.
    Your opinion noted as well as your partisan behavior. My point stands you wouldn't know leadership if it slapped you in the face. You want to ignore the results and continue to vote for the R regardless of what the person does.

    What is it about conservatism that creates lack of thinking?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your opinion noted as well as your partisan behavior. My point stands you wouldn't know leadership if it slapped you in the face. You want to ignore the results and continue to vote for the R regardless of what the person does.

    What is it about conservatism that creates lack of thinking?
    Well then nothing more to add since your mind is made up. The true partisan here is you. I criticized Bush for many things over his 8 years in office but Bush is irrelevant now that Obama is in his 2nd term and his results didn't deserve re-election, Bush's did. I suggest bls.gov, bea.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data to prove my point.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well then nothing more to add since your mind is made up. The true partisan here is you. I criticized Bush for many things over his 8 years in office but Bush is irrelevant now that Obama is in his 2nd term and his results didn't deserve re-election, Bush's did. I suggest bls.gov, bea.gov, and the U.S. Treasury data to prove my point.
    No, the true partisan is you, I didn't vote for Obama because of his results. You on the other hand have shown you only care about the R in front of the person running for president. What is it about conservatism that creates lack of thinking?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The numbers are there for all to see but you choose not to pay any attention to them.

    I have posted before the goals of ARRA so please tell me why YOU believe it was a success.

    The claim of saving jobs, how do you define a saved job?

    Does it make any sense for you to spend 842 billion dollars and generate the numbers he generated a year after ARRA?

    what is it in that Opinion piece that is wrong?
    The numbers themselves are just fine. It's your pitiful excuse for analysis that needs a whole lot of work here.

    The findings of firms who happen to be the authorities on these types of matters.

    The retainment of a position likely lost without intervention. The most obvious forms being public sector positions retained through supplemental funding that would've otherwise been lost due to revenue shortfalls.

    How much the fiscal stimulus has helped the economy cannot be determined through an accounting exercise. Washington's statisticians cannot canvas the country and pick out which jobs have been created or saved by the stimulus and which have not. The best tools available involve statistical analysis that is subject to a range of uncertainties. But although the exact number of jobs that would have been lost without the
    fiscal stimulus will never be known, it is clear that this number is significant. Research by Moody’s Analytics and others, such as the Congressional Budget Office, suggeststhat without ARRA, at least 2
    million fewer jobs would exist today and the unemployment rate would be closer to 11% (see Table 5).


    http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...omy-070110.pdf

    What is there to dispute? What findings are actually up for debate here? It's an opinion piece which cites individual interviews as reason enough to label the bill as a failure. I'll pass.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, the true partisan is you, I didn't vote for Obama because of his results. You on the other hand have shown you only care about the R in front of the person running for president. What is it about conservatism that creates lack of thinking?
    Your opinion noted

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted
    As is yours each and every time you try to analyze data. The numbers are sound, your analysis of WHY the numbers are what they are is what is opinion.

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