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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    year.Jan 2009=142153


    year.Jan 2013=143322

    Total=1169+

    Yep. looks like a gain.

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    LOL !!! Obama on the stump in 2008..

    " By 2008 I will add twelve hundred net jobs right after I add 6 trillion to the National debt, pump trillions of printed currency into the stock market causing the next bubble, be solely responsible for 20 million new people that have fled to the food stamp roles, double the amount of people on disability, because there ARE NO JOBS FOR THEM, allow 20 million illegals aliens to stay in the Country and compete with Americans for what little jobs are available, increase the poverty rate to 1 and 6 and pass the most expensive and most destructive health care law I can come up with."

    Unreal.

    You should have stifled yourself from posting that pathetic data.
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    OK. No problem. I just never want to miss your wisdom.
    I would say every post of his is a accident.
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    As I have pointed out repeatedly, unemployment under GWB averaged only 5.3%, including the very much worse than average final months. Economists generally regard unemployment of 4% as representing "full employment" for policy purposes. Thus, GWB spent most of his Presidency running within a percentage point or so of full employment. Upshot? GWB created fewer jobs for the simple (and good) reason that fewer jobs needed to be created.
    I can't believe you still pushing this BS. The very idea that jobs don't need to be created is ludicrous at best. If all the jobs involved fully employed people, you would have a valid point. However, many jobs are part time or temporary.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!! Obama on the stump in 2008..

    " By 2008 I will add twelve hundred net jobs right after I add 6 trillion to the National debt, pump trillions of printed currency into the stock market causing the next bubble, be solely responsible for 20 million new people that have fled to the food stamp roles, double the amount of people on disability, because there ARE NO JOBS FOR THEM, allow 20 million illegals aliens to stay in the Country and compete with Americans for what little jobs are available, increase the poverty rate to 1 and 6 and pass the most expensive and most destructive health care law I can come up with."

    Unreal.

    You should have stifled yourself from posting that pathetic data.
    It took you four paragraphs in post #1523 to say BO had nary a job gain.Now you're here dancen around the post and telling me that "You should have stifled yourself from posting that pathetic data".

    Whatta ****en lame you are.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I can't believe you still pushing this BS. The very idea that jobs don't need to be created is ludicrous at best. If all the jobs involved fully employed people, you would have a valid point. However, many jobs are part time or temporary.
    The statistic you like so much is just a net number, reflecting a great deal of job destruction and creation. When the economy doesn't have much unemployment, the net plus doesn't get very high.
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Take a basic civics class and get back to me. You have shown how little you know calling budgets spending bills and have no idea what a supplemental is so I wouldn't be trying to tell someone about any correlation until you understand how legislation is generated and the difference between budgets and spending bills.
    So you are arguing that the fiscal year 2008 budget caused the housing bubble to collapse? I mean that is the only correlation I can see you making between the Nov 2007 election and "the budget".
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The statistic you like so much is just a net number, reflecting a great deal of job destruction and creation. When the economy doesn't have much unemployment, the net plus doesn't get very high.
    Such an apologist, the problem is that the net "plus" was a negative, -646,000 private sector job losses or there abouts, which of course, Bush is totally responsible for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Take a basic civics class and get back to me. You have shown how little you know calling budgets spending bills and have no idea what a supplemental is so I wouldn't be trying to tell someone about any correlation until you understand how legislation is generated and the difference between budgets and spending bills.
    Okay high and mighty splain away what's the difference?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, maybe Obama should quit talking about guns and get back to thinking about jobs. Some economists are saying Unemployment will rise to 7.8% and others are saying it will stay the same.

    They never really agree on anything and yet counting numbers there really shouldn't be any excuses for mistakes.
    7.6%... 7.8%... those aren't the real numbers.

    I wish they'd use a formula to give us real numbers... regardless of administration. We need to know all who are out of work, whether they've gone beyond an artificial deadline and are wiped off the list or have stopped looking or not... the total picture should be given.
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    7.6%... 7.8%... those aren't the real numbers.
    What makes them "not real?" The same basic definition has been used in the US for about 90 years, and is used for almost every country in the world. Sure, people often use a more informal definition of "unemployed" in conversation, but that doesn't make it the "real definition."

    We need to know all who are out of work, whether they've gone beyond an artificial deadline and are wiped off the list or have stopped looking or not... the total picture should be given.
    Those numbers are published. What do you mean by "gone beyond an artificial deadline? There's no time limit to be classified as Unemployed. There's no list either, so no one can be wiped off it. And why do you think someone who is not trying to work should be classified as Unemployed? That's what unemployed means...Unable to find work. If someone's not looking for work, we can't know if they are able or unable to find work.

    But if you want the breakdown of the population...no problem.
    One caveat: The Labor Force Statistics only include people in the 50 states and the District of Columbia who are 16 years old or older, not active duty military and not in an institution (prison, mental institute, old age home etc).

    Using the Not Seasonally Adjusted numbers:
    Adult Civilian Non-Institutional Population: 244,995,000
    Labor Force (Employed plus Unemployed): 154,512,000
    Employed: 142,698,000
    Unemployed (willing, available, actively looked for work previous 4 weeks): 11,815,000
    Not in the Labor Force (not working or looking): 90,483,000
    Do Not Want a Job: 84,084,000
    Want a Job: 6,399,000
    Did Not Search for Work in Previous Year: 3,417,000
    Searched in previous year but not past 4 weeks: 2,982,000
    Not Available for work: 656,000
    Marginally Attached (available now): 2,326,000
    Discouraged: 803,000
    Reasons Other than Discouragement (personal reasons for not looking): 1,523,000

    So what are the "real numbers?" These are monthly numbers so it's about what people were doing between February and March. If someone hasn't looked for work in that time period, what does that tell us about how easy/hard it is to get a job in that time period? What does someone who didn't get hired in March but who says that they could not have accepted a job if offered tell us?

    Sources: Defintions:
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