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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You are correct. GWB and his people came into office convinced that Clinton had used terrorism to dodge more important and difficult questions. They were not to be persuaded that the threat was real and deadly. We knew the blow was coming, but we couldn't get the WH to buy in.
    I don't know why you even bother to mention Clinton's name since you admit it was Bush's fault that not enough was done to prevent it.?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Keep beating your head against the keyboard if you wish, but I'll ask again, why should government employment have increased and not decreased?
    I asked you a question. Can you answer it?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I asked you a question. Can you answer it?
    I believe I have already answered your question. Government employment should not be expected to expand at the same rate, if at all, during any recovery period from a recession. Why would you think it should?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes. Shrinking tax base resulting from poor economic management. BHO owns those losses too.
    But your wrong, the public sector grew under President Bush. Decreasing income tax revenue resulting from the recession caused loss of public sector jobs. That's about 700K worth which is probably worth a decrease percentage point in the UE rate.


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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Appeal to authority fallacy.
    No, "appeal to authority" is only a fallacy when the subject is out of the scope of the authority, or the authority is not really an authority.

    Now, of course, I could still be wrong in my area of expertise, but when I say how something is done, then that's how it's done.
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    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I believe I have already answered your question. Government employment should not be expected to expand at the same rate, if at all, during any recovery period from a recession. Why would you think it should?
    I never asked you if you think it should. I asked you a quantitative question regarding the data. Once you offer me the courtesy of answering the question that resulted in your follow up question (back peddling), i will answer anything you ask.
    Last edited by Kushinator; 04-14-13 at 10:42 PM.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I don't know why you even bother to mention Clinton's name since you admit it was Bush's fault that not enough was done to prevent it.?
    I have never seen someone with such hatred for a former President and so much time spent demonizing someone. He must have done something terrible to you or your family so let us know what it is? He has absolutely nothing to do with the economic results of Obama's, nothing and you have a very selective memory of what happened during his term. Bush took office with an economy going into recession and a few months after taking office the country experienced 9/11 which had a devastating effect on employment and economic growth. In spite of that the numbers from 2003-2007 were stellar and it was that growth that led to his re-election. You choose to ignore that reality

    Obama on the other hand has absolutely zero leadership skills, never held a real job, took office as the least experienced President in history and the results show that but you overlook the results and continue to buy the rhetoric. You obviously have no understanding of leadership skills or the responsibilities of leadership. Regardless of what you think Bush did, regardless of the hand Obama was dealt, a true leader takes that hand and plays it and then is judged upon the results. The Obama results are a disaster based upon the dollars spent, the poor leadership shown, and the devisive style displayed. Only a true ideologue could try and defend what Obama has done

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I never asked you if you think it should. I asked you a quantitative question regarding the data. Once you offer me the courtesy by answering the question that resulted in your follow up question (back peddling), i will answer anything you ask.
    Yes, if the private sector had added another 700K to offset the decrease in the government sector, UE might be lower. Then again, it might be higher as well if people thought there were productive jobs available...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    But your wrong, the public sector grew under President Bush. Decreasing income tax revenue resulting from the recession caused loss of public sector jobs. That's about 700K worth which is probably worth a decrease percentage point in the UE rate.
    Obama has absolutely no control over public sector jobs at the state level where most of those public sector jobs were lost. States took fiscal responsibility and without the ability to print money did what any private citizen would do when faced with debt, cut expenses. That is a concept that liberals don't understand. The labor force increased over 10 million people during the first 7 years of the Bush term and there was record tax revenue generated to the treasury all with those tax cuts. During the first 7 years of Bush the deficit was never over a trillion dollars and the states had more revenue thus they expanded their public sector employment.

    You and Sheik have very selective memories as you try to defend the indefensible. It really is a shame that you have so much invested in demonizing Bush that you cannot see what Obama is doing to this country. Why won't you answer the question as to why? Is the Obama economic policy something you really support?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have never seen someone with such hatred for a former President and so much time spent demonizing someone.
    IRONY!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    He has absolutely nothing to do with the economic results of Obama's, nothing and you have a very selective memory of what happened during his term. Bush took office with an economy going into recession and a few months after taking office the country experienced 9/11 which had a devastating effect on employment and economic growth.
    It has everything to do with the economic results of Obama..."Bush took office with an economy going into recession"--Obama was handed an economy tumbling into depression! and then this.... "the country experienced 9/11" as if it was a natural disaster...it was on BUSH'S FRIGGING WATCH

    Only a true ideologue could try and defend what Bush has done..
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