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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    That is awesome, the 2% tax increase you claim Obama wanted was the end of the Keynesian stimulus payroll tax holiday which Republicans opposed fromt he beginning and wanted gone every chance they got. Still it was always intended to be temporary, so by definition, it had to end some time. If Obama could have gotten it through, he would have extended it further, but there was no way he was going to get the GOP on board.

    Very little has been vetoed? Seriously? You want to go with that?

    The GOP House has voted to repeal Obamacare nearly three dozen times, they have passed three DOA budgets which had zero chance of becoming law, the GOP minority in the Senate has invoked a record shattering 360 filibusters since 2007.

    When you say, "he this year got the 2% tax increase on every worker he wanted and he got the raise in the top end tax rate", I am reminded of that line from Princess Bride. "My brains, his steal, and your strength, against 60 men. And, you think a little head jiggle is supposed to make me happy?"

    The GOp is content with allowing nothing to happen unless they get all they want, the only variations on this theme are when the only alternative is catastrophe from which they could not escape blame.
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    While I disagree, I appreciate the more sensible tone.

    But you say "by all standards the stimulus was a complete and utter failure as the results show"

    How do you support that contention?

    The only way to know for sure is to have a view into an alternate reality where a different policy path was taken. Beyond that impossibility, all we can go on is the view of experts, professional economists.

    So tell me what do economists say?

    I can show you a poll of economists where 92% agree that the stimulus succeeded in reducing joblessness, but I could also find economists in the minority who disagree.

    Are you suggesing that since a small minority of economists agree with you they must be right, because.... they agree with you???
    Very easy to determine the success or failure of the stimulus, look at the economic results, jobs created, economic growth numbers. In addition

    Review & Outlook:Why the Stimulus Failed - WSJ.com

    Please tell me how anyone can say that the stimulus reduced joblessness when there are 3 million less employed today than when the recession began and 3 million more in the labor force? I rely on data not economist opinions

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you buy the liberal spin? You and others seem to believe we need a 3.6 trillion dollar federal govt. when the reality is it is the private sector suffering not the public sector. Small business owners aren't hiring because of economic uncertainty and can more than compensate for the decline in public sector jobs if given the incentive to do so. Higher taxes, more regulations, and Obamacare aren't prescriptions for economic growth and job creation
    Baloney, the public sector has lost 720,000 jobs since Obama became president.

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Okay, so one conservative blames Obama for a middle class tax increase by ending the payroll tax holiday and another says that it was necessary because it funds the SS system.

    So, which is it?

    How many attempts to repeal Obamacare does the House need? I would suspect that since they KNOW that it will not get through the Senate, maybe one vote to get themselves on record might be appropriate, but how exactly is Congress doing the business of the nation by having nearly three dozen votes passing the same DOA bill? How does a pointless vote save us money?

    Filibusters, read it yourself.... U.S. Senate: Reference Home >

    I recognize that you believe that lower income taxes will stimulate economic growth, I just disagree and if you look at the data, America has always had economic growth, whether we have tax hikes or cuts, so eventually we will recover lost revenues to a point, but as the record shows, that point has never been enough to balance the budget, that is why we see record deficits during good economic times following supply side tax cuts. Reagan, Bush.
    The number of filibusters against economic policies are minimal and that is what we are talking about. Still waiting for the economic policies of Obama that have been filibustered which would have improved job creation, economic growth, and cut the deficit?

    You obivously don't understand the four components of GDP so suggest you do some research and tell me how taking money out of the consumers' hands stimulates economic growth and job creation? What do you do when you have less take home pay due to higher taxes?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Baloney, the public sector has lost 720,000 jobs since Obama became president.

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
    Actual data, 143 million employed Americans today on a labor force of 155 million. When the recession began it was 146 million working Americans and 153 million labor force. 3 million lost jobs and 3 million more people looking for jobs, that a liberal success?

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    Subsidies for "green energy" as well as tax credits and grants for "research" make up the majority of "corporate welfare". It all sounds evil when you lump everything together under the same heading and package it as "Corporate welfare spending is greater than social welfare spending". However, if someone were to propose eliminating those subsidies, tax credits, and research grants which side of the isle would be fighting the hardest to keep them in place?
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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    With all the new taxes on businesses it will probably not improve a great deal all year.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actual data, 143 million employed Americans today on a labor force of 155 million. When the recession began it was 146 million working Americans and 153 million labor force. 3 million lost jobs and 3 million more people looking for jobs, that a liberal success?
    Wow lying by omission how clever, NOT

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actual data, 143 million employed Americans today on a labor force of 155 million. When the recession began it was 146 million working Americans and 153 million labor force. 3 million lost jobs and 3 million more people looking for jobs, that a liberal success?
    Who was president when the recession began December 2007?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Polls these days are very subjective...Just as you can cite a poll to back your
    opinion, I can find an equal one to back mine....They are meaningless.
    LOL...!! Well forget it the numbers then.
    We're in the midst of a recovery.

    You needbto wake up and realize you folks elected an incompetent and realize the damage thats being done by Obama Care to the economy.

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