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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Huh? Doctors who do nothing but give shots? What a waste of a education.
    Yeah, and handle Medicaid and medicare to.....huh? Plus some are doing research at the same time. Go figure, eh?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    They're not "buying it" because they're celebrating it. Free money and no work is quite popular among your voting bloc.
    There is more than one kind of welfare, and "your voting bloc" seems to avidly support the worst kind of wealthy, giving free money to those that don't need it but have the political clout to get it anyway. We spend 50% more on corporate welfare than we do on programs fro the needy.

    I support sensible welfare support systems, and contrary to what most conservatives believe, almost all welfare is administered by the states and almost all welfare is temporary. The main variations being Veterans benefits (which are included in welfare numbers, but I would hardly consider them handouts, and permanent disability claims).

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Polls these days are very subjective...Just as you can cite a poll to back your opinion, I can find an equal one to back mine....They are meaningless.
    Yeah, that's what people on the wrong side of polls tend to say.

    I do recall conservatives arguing that the polls surrounding heathcare reform should be taken as the Gospel of American opinion, but hey, that was then (and those polls included not only people who thought the reform bill went too far, about 38%, but the folks who felt it did not go far enough, about 14%)

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Another month of proof for four years running that this administration couldn't give a crap about private sector jobs. Forget what they say, all their actions and results prove that their priority is to grow and get more people dependent on government. The Obama malais continues, right on schedule.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    There is more than one kind of welfare, and "your voting bloc" seems to avidly support the worst kind of wealthy, giving free money to those that don't need it but have the political clout to get it anyway. We spend 50% more on corporate welfare than we do on programs fro the needy.

    I support sensible welfare support systems, and contrary to what most conservatives believe, almost all welfare is administered by the states and almost all welfare is temporary. The main variations being Veterans benefits (which are included in welfare numbers, but I would hardly consider them handouts, and permanent disability claims).
    Where are you getting this from?

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Where are you getting this from?

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    Good question, only in the liberal world is a company keeping more of what it earns an expense to the govt. thus a cost

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The excess of capital in the market today is because of the printing of money and this house of cards is about to crumble.

    Wall Street is doing very well whereas Main Street is suffering. You cannot have a labor force of 155 million with 143 million working and call that success. Nor can you have 51% of the income earning families paying for a 3.6 trillion dollar Federal Govt and expect the economy to grow, create jobs, and provide for economic security.

    Supply side is the only economic policy that is viable and makes sense in a consumer driven economy. There are four components to GDP with the largest being consumer spending. Consumers need cash and get that cash when jobs are created. Things like Obamacare, massive regulations, and penalizing wealth creators isn't a prescription for economic growth.

    The GOP is fighting for individual freedom, individual wealth creation, personal responsibility all principles upon which this country was built and which are proven to be successful. When you look at the budget you see an entitlement mentality with entitlements making up the lion's share of the budget. That is a prescription for failure as fewer workers are paying for more entitlement spending and a transfer of wealth from the individual to the govt. through higher taxes.

    By all standards the stimulus was a complete and utter failure as the results show
    While I disagree, I appreciate the more sensible tone.

    But you say "by all standards the stimulus was a complete and utter failure as the results show"

    How do you support that contention?

    The only way to know for sure is to have a view into an alternate reality where a different policy path was taken. Beyond that impossibility, all we can go on is the view of experts, professional economists.

    So tell me what do economists say?

    I can show you a poll of economists where 92% agree that the stimulus succeeded in reducing joblessness, but I could also find economists in the minority who disagree.

    Are you suggesing that since a small minority of economists agree with you they must be right, because.... they agree with you???

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you are using the 143 million as a baseline and ignoring it was 146 million 6 years ago.
    Not at all. You're the one who is ignoring that it is not 143 miliion coming down from 146, but 143 coming up from 139.

    Getting back to 143 million is very poor performance especially with a 155 million labor force.
    yeah, that makes an unemployment rate of 7.7% Which is a big improvement over the worst in October 2009 when it was 138.4 million employed and a labor force of 153.8 million (UE rate of 10%)

    Being up from the worst decline but not even close to being back to 2007 numbers is the disaster I am talking about.
    but it's not. You keep talking like the numbers are the lowest they've been, and not an improvement over the worst. Too slow perhaps, but still an improvement.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Where are you getting this from?

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    Government Spends More on Corporate Welfare Subsidies than Social Welfare Programs | Think by Numbers

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    Re: U.S. Adds Only 88,000 Jobs; Jobless Rate Falls to 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, where do you get your information, Think Progress, Moveon, or other leftwing sites? How do attempts to repeal Obamacare hurt the economy and economic growth?

    How does lowering the cost of govt. hurt economic growth which is what the GOP budgets did?

    360 filibusters? Where did you get that information and how many of any filibuster prevented Obama from enacting his economic policies?

    Elimination of the payroll tax holiday was a good thing because payroll taxes is what funds SS and Medicare and never should have been implemented in the first place. Cut income taxes to see strong economic growth, i.e. Reagan and Bush.

    The GOP is for getting back to the principles which made this country great and reversing the trend towards an entitlement society.
    Okay, so one conservative blames Obama for a middle class tax increase by ending the payroll tax holiday and another says that it was necessary because it funds the SS system.

    So, which is it?

    How many attempts to repeal Obamacare does the House need? I would suspect that since they KNOW that it will not get through the Senate, maybe one vote to get themselves on record might be appropriate, but how exactly is Congress doing the business of the nation by having nearly three dozen votes passing the same DOA bill? How does a pointless vote save us money?

    Filibusters, read it yourself.... U.S. Senate: Reference Home >

    I recognize that you believe that lower income taxes will stimulate economic growth, I just disagree and if you look at the data, America has always had economic growth, whether we have tax hikes or cuts, so eventually we will recover lost revenues to a point, but as the record shows, that point has never been enough to balance the budget, that is why we see record deficits during good economic times following supply side tax cuts. Reagan, Bush.

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