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    Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Senate bill seeks to curb college vote :: WRAL.com

    Raleigh, N.C. — A bill filed in the state Senate Tuesday would carry a tax penalty for parents whose children register to vote at their college address.


    Senate Bill 667, known as "Equalize Voter Rights," would remove the tax exemption for dependents who register to vote at any address other than their parents' home.

    The same provisions on student voting have also been rolled into a larger omnibus bill, Senate Bill 666, which would also shorten early voting days, ban early voting on evenings and weekends and prohibit same-day registration
    North Carolina is in a real competition with South Carolina for the race to most backwards state of the union. NC republicans could try and appeal to more voters, or they could just make laws making it harder for people more likely to vote democrat to vote...
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

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    North Carolina is in a real competition with South Carolina for the race to most backwards state of the union. NC republicans could try and appeal to more voters, or they could just make laws making it harder for people more likely to vote democrat to vote...
    Yeah, the republicans are disappointed their political cult hasn't carried more college kids. This is just plain criminal and sure to keep the vote of the youth on the left side of the aisle.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

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    North Carolina is in a real competition with South Carolina for the race to most backwards state of the union. NC republicans could try and appeal to more voters, or they could just make laws making it harder for people more likely to vote democrat to vote...
    I don’t know if this is as sinister as you portray it or not. If you are in the military and stationed at Ft. Bragg, you have to register and vote in your home state district. Not Fayetteville. There are exceptions, if you buy a home in Fayetteville and change your official residence to Fayetteville, they you can register and vote there. But if you reside in on post housing or barracks, you have to vote back in your home state.

    I would assume this is in that line of thinking. Those college students from another state have to register and vote in their home states as dorms are just temporary housing much like on post housing would be at Ft. Bragg. My feelings are if an address on Ft. Bragg can’t be used, neither should a college address which is nothing more than a temporary address and not ones official residence.

    Now for this part below:

    “The bill would also require voters to have their vehicles registered at the same address as their voter registration. That also could cut down on college student registration, since many students maintain their vehicle registration in their home counties.”

    The above also makes sense to me. If you live there, your vehicle registration should also be there or where you official residence is.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

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    North Carolina is in a real competition with South Carolina for the race to most backwards state of the union. NC republicans could try and appeal to more voters, or they could just make laws making it harder for people more likely to vote democrat to vote...
    SO, at what point should people stop being allowed to claim a child tax credit? When the kid is 40, or what?
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don’t know if this is as sinister as you portray it or not. If you are in the military and stationed at Ft. Bragg, you have to register and vote in your home state district. Not Fayetteville. There are exceptions, if you buy a home in Fayetteville and change your official residence to Fayetteville, they you can register and vote there. But if you reside in on post housing or barracks, you have to vote back in your home state.

    I would assume this is in that line of thinking. Those college students from another state have to register and vote in their home states as dorms are just temporary housing much like on post housing would be at Ft. Bragg. My feelings are if an address on Ft. Bragg can’t be used, neither should a college address which is nothing more than a temporary address and not ones official residence.

    Now for this part below:

    “The bill would also require voters to have their vehicles registered at the same address as their voter registration. That also could cut down on college student registration, since many students maintain their vehicle registration in their home counties.”

    The above also makes sense to me. If you live there, your vehicle registration should also be there or where you official residence is.
    When you join the service, your parents can no longer claim you as a dependent, either.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    SO, at what point should people stop being allowed to claim a child tax credit? When the kid is 40, or what?
    Its just so bizarre that in an attempt to cut back on people claiming adults as dependents they tie it to voting of all things, why not the address you give on your tax returns or anything else.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

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    North Carolina is in a real competition with South Carolina for the race to most backwards state of the union. NC republicans could try and appeal to more voters, or they could just make laws making it harder for people more likely to vote democrat to vote...
    Why should parents get tax cuts for adult children not living at home? Seems to me if parents want to claim their adult children as dependents then that is where the college student should be registered to vote at. They can vote absentee.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Yeah, the republicans are disappointed their political cult hasn't carried more college kids. This is just plain criminal and sure to keep the vote of the youth on the left side of the aisle.
    More likely this is done to avoid representation w/o taxation (or any true lasting interest). Many college towns have more out of state "temporary" students than year around/permanent residents. Not all elections are national, in fact, only the president is; all other ballot choices are for state/district/local offices and referendum issues.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When you join the service, your parents can no longer claim you as a dependent, either.
    True, but I think this may be more to let the kids vote back in their home districts and not from some temporary address. I could be wrong, but this was my take on it. When I was stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood, Mo. I couldn't vote in Missouri as my home of record or official residence was Georgia. I lived in temporary quarters in on base housing. There is no way I should have been allowed to vote in Missouri since I was just temporary living there. Same for college kids.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    I'm curious - how does each state determine who has a right to vote in their state in Presidential and other federal office elections if a student is registerd as a resident in their parent's home as well as registered as a resident of their college town when that college is in a different state than their parent's residence? Are they allowed to vote for President twice - once at home, perhaps by absentee ballot and once at school, in person? What is done to prohibit such double voting?

    Secondly, I see this also as an issue of eligibility for a tax deduction if the student is living away from home for the majority of the year and in some cases all year - are they truly dependents in the normal sense?

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