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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    They should just stop allowing parents to claim their adult children as dependents. And at the same time stop using the parents' income as a determining factor if the kid gets financial aid for college.

    And frankly, if you are going to live in a place for 4 years and spend your money there, you should have a vote in what goes on there. I am registered to vote in Tarrant County, Texas. I haven't lived there in nearly two decades due to my military career. An out of state kid going to college there should be more entitled to voting in local elections there than I.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ummm...that has nothing to do with anything. Your residence in the eyes of the law is where you live. Here, let me help you educate yourself: North Carolina General Statutes 163-57 Residence defined for registration and voting - Legal Research



    So, by Noerth Carolina law(you know, what we are talking about here), dependency states is not a factor in determining residency. You are wrong.

    Hint: I tend to make it a point to research what I talk about. Simple things like looking up laws is something I do alot. Telling me to educate myself when you have clearly done less is going to end in embarrassment, as it did here.
    Lmao. You looked up a law that they are looking to change. For the exact reasons I mentioned already. My point stands, one is not truly a dependent if they are voting in a different location.

    Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Either you are a dependent with temporary residence else where, or if you have permenant residency elsewhere then you're an independent. It's an easy concept, and one that the law makers of NC believe should be in effect.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Some posters have made a valid point, in my mind, related to the types of things that are on ballots at various times and whether a transient who has no roots in the community and will be gone again in a couple of years has any interest or right to express an interest in those decisions.

    As an example, the SSM debate going on in many states. If I live in New York, where SSM is legal, and I go to school in Texas, where it's not, and a ballot proposition comes up related to SSM, why should I as a resident of New York help/hinder the determination of Texans on what they want to do for their state with the issue?
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not where you are registered to vote, but where you register to vote.
    Yes the bill is saying if parents want to keep claiming their kids as dependents that their kids have to register where their parents/caregiver lives, not where ever they attend college at. This is reasonable. If parents are taking care of their children it is assumed that their children live under the parents' roof, and that the children will go back home once school is over.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    I don't get what this has to do with parents getting tax breaks. Most people agree that a young person living at college cannot call that their permanent residence. Dorm assignments change yearly, sometimes twice a year. There are a lot of limitations to having a campus address when you are trying to deal with formal government documents, voting procedures, etc. It's that way in most countries, and most countries acknowledge that campus residence is a grey area.

    NC Republicans are just trying to limit the Democratic vote, as usual. It's this and the restructuring of voting districts that really gets on my nerves. This is why I can't vote GOP anymore and haven't for years. Too many dirty, underhanded tricks. If they spent half as much time restoring the party to something more sensible as they do trying to disenfranchise voters, they'd have my support again.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    The more i read up on this the less it sounds terrible. First, you are not talking about on campus students. As far as i know you cannot use student housing to register as your residence because it is not permanent. The people who this would apply to would be those who have a legitimate residence off campus. Should you really be claiming your kid as a dependent when they have a place of their own and should be providing for themselves? If it is a problem put them in on campus housing and forget about it. If money is actually that much of a problem it is cheaper to stay on campus, and you get the tax breaks. If you are on campus you should not be voting in those town issues anyway because you are not a resident.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    They should just stop allowing parents to claim their adult children as dependents. And at the same time stop using the parents' income as a determining factor if the kid gets financial aid for college.
    I have to agree with this one. If they are going to tax people once their kid establishes themselves in a new address they also should stop taking the parent's income into account for the children. I knew too many people in college who were trying to get emancipated in their 20's due to the reality the government still counts you as a dependent even if you are working full time and paying all your own bills.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    So if I'm understanding this correctly, the right wants college kids to go back home to vote, then travel back to college to learn. Is that correct?
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    So if I'm understanding this correctly, the right wants college kids to go back home to vote, then travel back to college to learn. Is that correct?
    Have you not heard of absentee voting in situations where you're temporarily away from your legal residence?
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    So if I'm understanding this correctly, the right wants college kids to go back home to vote, then travel back to college to learn. Is that correct?
    No, you should still be able to get an absentee ballot like always.

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