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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As far as I know, college students are able to vote in their home of record, anyway.
    Sure, but if they can register and vote in whatever college town they are going to college in, they can actually vote twice.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are not a dependent when you are in the military. Different situation.
    So if you are a dependent you should vote in what ever district your parents live in and not in the district, town or what ever the college is in.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Who would know, other than the student? How is this checked?
    As a student, I think it depends on where you register as a voter. I was told I couldn't vote on campus for the Orange county elections because I was registered as a Seminole county voter (mind you, my house is like 5 minutes off campus). I drove 5 minutes and filled out a ballot in Seminole County.

    In my mind its pretty stupid how it works. We are 20 minutes away from Downtown Orlando, yet they zoned the college in with Orange county instead of Seminole county which is 5 minutes away. So you have a bunch of college kids voting for a mayor in a city they likely never have or never will live in and who really has no effect on policies on the campus.

    Truth be told, I'm not even completely in favor of allowing college kids to vote. Most of them are politically active, and politically stupid.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Isn't one of the hallmarks of this country the ability to travel between states and conduct business between states at your pleasure? This bill specifically aims to make it more difficult for 18-22 year olds, who already have limited resources, to do so. This bill essentially just aims to penalize families where people study out of state. It's attempting to enforce a kind of state loyalty that goes against the united nature of the United States. States are not permitted to discriminate against visitors from other states. That it is intentionally designed to pressure visiting college students not to register to vote in North Carolina, despite living there for several years, is clear evidence of this sort of discrimination.

    Whether or not children over 18 should be claimed as dependents at all is a different issue, but that rule should be applied equally, not to prevent people from traveling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    So if you are a dependent you should vote in what ever district your parents live in and not in the district, town or what ever the college is in.

    No, you should vote wherever you are residing. What your parents do or do not claim on their tax return should have no impact on your right to vote in elections that govern where you live.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This bill does not draw a distinction as to where you live, but where you vote.
    It makes a distinction where you are registered to vote.

    Senate bill seeks to curb college vote :: WRAL.com

    Senate Bill 667, known as "Equalize Voter Rights," would remove the tax exemption for dependents who register to vote at any address other than their parents' home.

    "If the voter is a dependent of the voter's parent or legal guardian, is 18 years of age or older and the voter has registered at an address other than that of the parent or legal guardian, the parent or legal guardian will not be allowed to claim the voter as a dependent for state income tax purposes," the bill says.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The issue is not the age. This draws the distinction on whether a dependent by whether you vote while at college. In other words, you can be a dependent and at college, as long as you do not vote.
    They aren't taking away the right to vote, you can still vote, albeit by an absentee ballet at your home address.

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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    So if you are a dependent you should vote in what ever district your parents live in and not in the district, town or what ever the college is in.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    They aren't taking away the right to vote, you can still vote, albeit by an absentee ballet at your home address.
    The college student lives and resides at his college address.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The issue is not the age. This draws the distinction on whether a dependent by whether you vote while at college. In other words, you can be a dependent and at college, as long as you do not vote.
    Well, I see a potential fo income tax evasion. Who's to say that a person, in college, renting an apartment, has a job and is recieving no financial support from his parents, while his parents are steadily writing him off as a dependent? That's not a dependent.

    The question is, at what point are parents forced to stop claiming their kid on their income taxes. I always thought it was automatic, at 18, but maybe I'm wrong. Or, maybe this refers to SC's state tax code?
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It makes a distinction where you are registered to vote.

    Senate bill seeks to curb college vote :: WRAL.com

    Senate Bill 667, known as "Equalize Voter Rights," would remove the tax exemption for dependents who register to vote at any address other than their parents' home.

    "If the voter is a dependent of the voter's parent or legal guardian, is 18 years of age or older and the voter has registered at an address other than that of the parent or legal guardian, the parent or legal guardian will not be allowed to claim the voter as a dependent for state income tax purposes," the bill says.
    Not where you are registered to vote, but where you register to vote.
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    Re: Senate bill seeks to curb college vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The college student lives and resides at his college address.
    But, he can still vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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