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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    This would have been perfectly legal from the inception of this nation until the ratification of the 14th amendment in 1868. Up until that time the forbidance to establish a state religion was directed at the federal government and only the federal government. Each state supported their own religion until 1875 when North Carolina became the last of the original 13 colonies/state to put an end to that practice.

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    This isn't in contradiction to the Constitution. As much as I would oppose such a measure (it's bad for religion), it is within the State Powers to declare a State Church. At the time of the Signing of the Constitution, for example, several states had their own respective state churches, and kept them for years.
    And why don't they anymore?

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

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    What's "just" is a matter of interpretation, but as for what's legal - laws can be "based in religious doctrine alone."
    What is just is the product of the metaphysics of morality. One cannot justly hold their religious doctrine over those of differing faith. Not in a free Republic.
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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    This would have been perfectly legal from the inception of this nation until the ratification of the 14th amendment in 1868. Up until that time the forbidance to establish a state religion was directed at the federal government and only the federal government. Each state supported their own religion until 1875 when North Carolina became the last of the original 13 colonies/state to put an end to that practice.
    I believe it was legal up until 1947 - when the Establishment Clause was incorporated against the states. The last state to have an established religion was Massachusetts, and all made the decision on their own to "disestablish" decades before the 14th amendment was passed... North Carolina disestablished in 1776. They did have a law that made it illegal for anyone other than a Christian to serve in office up until 1875. They still have a law that forbids atheists from serving, but I doubt it's been tested.

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What is just is the product of the metaphysics of morality. One cannot justly hold their religious doctrine over those of differing faith. Not in a free Republic.
    Really? Go to Indiana on a Sunday and try to buy some liquor.

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    What a waste of time, so unconstitutional it's not even funny. What silly little children.
    although i am not for such a thing, can you show where it would be unconstitutional?

    if you produce the first amendment, please take note of the first few words, ....."congress shall make no law"

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    This isn't in contradiction to the Constitution. As much as I would oppose such a measure (it's bad for religion), it is within the State Powers to declare a State Church. At the time of the Signing of the Constitution, for example, several states had their own respective state churches, and kept them for years.
    Things have changed since then

    Everson v. Board of Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Then you also have the parts of the bill that are just flat out wrong and clearly unconstitutional
    Whereas, the Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional;therefore, by virtue of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the power to determine constitutionality and the proper interpretation and proper application of the Constitution is reserved to the states and to the people
    These guys are smart enough to know that the courts are in fact the ones that determine what is and is not constitutional, they are just attempting to drum up support among their uneducated voters by pretending they are actually doing something in their jobs.

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Things have changed since then

    Everson v. Board of Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Then you also have the parts of the bill that are just flat out wrong and clearly unconstitutional


    These guys are smart enough to know that the courts are in fact the ones that determine what is and is not constitutional, they are just attempting to drum up support among their uneducated voters by pretending they are actually doing something in their jobs.
    i am not aiming anything at you personally, so please dont take it that way.

    but why is it i see people posting things that are federal law, and put it forth as it overrides constitutional law, or say something is unconstitutional, when the Constitution does not mention it.

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