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    North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Hey Tar Heels....civil war? 1st amendment? Ya lost. You're trumped.
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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    By the way, if you have a state or national church, like in Denmark, you have a situation where you can now force the church to perform and recognize gay marriages (like in Denmark). Ta da! See how the barrier between church and state works?

    Not that a state or national church could be considered constitutional anyway, but still.
    That is true, a State owned church must abide by government rules and regulations. Also the clergy of said church would be government employee and subjected to all restrictions held to government employees.

    Theocracy is a bad thing. We did the State Church thing in the past. Turned out it was best for the religion if they were free from government's thumb.
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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, only if the establishment of a state religion violates the free excercise clause. IMO, SC can create an "official" religion, as long as that religion isn't the only religion that is allowed to be practiced inside the state. i.e. create laws prohibiting other religions.
    Completely incorrect reading of the First Amendment, both as to practice and to intent.
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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Completely incorrect reading of the First Amendment, both as to practice and to intent.
    In your opinion, sure. I'm thinking that you're unable to understand how, "establish", is being used in the 1st Amendment. I don't see a religion being established by the state, in this case. It's more like the state tree, state dog, state flower, etc...IMO.

    I'm not seeing how any harm is being done. Now, if they infringed on the right to practice other religions, I would say it's time to go to the cartridge box.
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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, it says that. But the bill of rights has been incorporated against state governments also.
    Most of it anyway - including the establishment clause (or we'd still have prayer in school, etc.)

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or that a state can house national guard troops in your house, or ban all firearms, or ignore your right against self-incrimination...

    Edit: The third amendment says no soldier shall be quartered in your home. It doesn't say anything about marines! :P
    Actually... that particular one has only been incorporated in three states. (Though I'm sure if given the opportunity the court would rule on the other 47 states.)

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Using this logic every time the USSC overturned a state law as unconstitutional it was exceeding its authority.
    Which would make every gun control law in the country...UNconstitutional.

    Ain't it a bitch when Libbos want the Constitution to mean two different things and it just can't do it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    I guess Lawmakers in North Carolina have nothing better to do.
    There must be no economic issues that need to be adressed,every body in NO must have a job that nets them 100k a year,everyone in that state access to health care,their students score at the top of Nation in math,science,...,
    Who knew NC was Utopia?

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which would make every gun control law in the country...UNconstitutional.

    Ain't it a bitch when Libbos want the Constitution to mean two different things and it just can't do it?
    Are you talking to me?

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    Re: North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No law may justly be based in religious doctrine alone.
    What's "just" is a matter of interpretation, but as for what's legal - laws can be "based in religious doctrine alone."

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