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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    yet you still cannot cut your meat without a knife. BTW you can get meat without a gun, but you cannot cut it without a knife.
    There is no constitutional right to cut meat.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    A gun has a magical shield that forces everyone to walk up to you and declare their intentions while allowing you time to draw and attack. We know it is true because that is how the advertisements work.
    That may be your expectation. That is not how I train women. No one of potential reasonably deduced violent risk is allowed to approach. They are told to stay back and if not are to be drawn upon.

    OK, now it's YOUR turn. Link to ANY occasion of a woman being raped when she had a firearm with her. There certainly have been plenty of links to women using a firearm to protect her children and herself.

    Do you have ANYTHING, ANYTHING IN REALITY, to back up what you post?

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There is no constitutional right to cut meat.
    So the founders made a mistake or two in the constitution. it wasn't passed down from god.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    You don't need your gun. As a matter of fact you could live your entire life without it. How often do you use it for shooting something other than targets? Which really amounts to playing with it. Which really puts your gun in the same category as a ball.


    If your ideals are common sense then consider me uncommon. I am fine with not seeing your point of view since you can barely explain it.


    Like I have shown you in the past, gun rights are not even acceptable for everyone by you, or the founding fathers for that matter.


    Now there is your problem. Reading comprehension. i have never said society doesn't need guns, I said you don't need them. You don't need a nuclear power reactor, but they do come in handy for the country. There are lots of things we find useful that you don't personally need.


    Evidently it is a problem for you, because you are here. It is hard to play like you are unconcerned with me when you are part of the posse that stalks my posts half the time.

    But for guns, my adopted daughter would have died the day after she was born, as would I have. So try again.

    Guns prevent 1,000,000 violent crimes per year.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So the founders made a mistake or two in the constitution. it wasn't passed down from god.

    Oh, I forgot. You do openly oppose having a Constitutional government and oppose having a Bill of Rights too.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So the founders made a mistake or two in the constitution. it wasn't passed down from god.
    OR the BoR isn't about what you're free to do but what the Government cannot. That way you need not state every common sense thing you're free to do.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That may be your expectation. That is not how I train women. No one of potential reasonably deduced violent risk is allowed to approach. They are told to stay back and if not are to be drawn upon.
    this is the way guns are presented by the right. the reality is the only reason a gun actually might help in situations is because the attacker is not out to kill you. If the attacker just wants your life then your gun is useless in a typical crime circumstance. You don't walk around running from cover to cover with your gun drawn prepared to defend against a person out to kill you. This means your guard is down and you are open most of the time, and your gun is useless. Your training works for keeping someone away who is not out to kill you. you claim I am the one who does not understand criminals don't approach you and tell you their intentions, yet after that you say you train women that is how crime works. Stand back is not going to work on the guy who comes from behind or the person who kills you flat out.
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    OK, now it's YOUR turn. Link to ANY occasion of a woman being raped when she had a firearm with her. There certainly have been plenty of links to women using a firearm to protect her children and herself.

    Do you have ANYTHING, ANYTHING IN REALITY, to back up what you post?
    You are ignoring the many cases of women in the military being raped. You know the ones who are trained in combat and weapons use, and who are also given weapons who get raped. really, you actually went there?

    A gun is not a magical shield that prevents you from getting raped. That idea was Akin level.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Oh, I forgot. You do openly oppose having a Constitutional government and oppose having a Bill of Rights too.
    no, I just oppose treating the constitution as it is automatically correct. But feel free to make up your own arguments for me when you cannot deal with the ones i make.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    OR the BoR isn't about what you're free to do but what the Government cannot. That way you need not state every common sense thing you're free to do.
    you mean the bill of rights that didn't give women the right to vote or black people freedom and the right to have guns. Seems to me the founders made a mistake that was corrected.

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    Re: Woman at Queens Bus Stop Taken to Cemetery, Raped at Knifepoint

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If she has a gun, it's likely the rapist might have shot and killed her with it.
    Since she didn't have a gun, it's a 100% guarantee that she's going to get ****ed in the ass.

    This clown is a rapist, not a murderer. If he was going to kill her, he would have the used...uh!...the knife he was threatening her with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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