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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, I am serious, guns in churches is a great idea for me. It could not possibly turn out poorly for me at all. Even in the example mentioned above, how many died from gun in those churches? It is a wonderful idea. You are just mad because you know why i support guns in churches and you also know i am right about what it would turn churches into.
    Half of the people at my parents church conceal carry, and they all seem to enjoy the sense of security. When you use ridiculous hyperbole like "passing out guns at the door", it just makes you look lazy and desperate.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I wonder how people would feel about putting armed guards in churches. Lots of easy targets, and it seems some people like to shoot up their parking lots so maybe people would appreciate an armed guard watching them as they pray?
    people carried concealed in my church. It never bothered me.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And do you have any actual facts to suggest that the teachers would do more harm than good? Let's imagine for a second one teacher did accidentally shoot a kid while trying to return fire to a shooter. One life trying to save 25 isn't that bad. Better than being completely unarmed and being shot like turkeys, like you'd prefer.


    It needs to be paired with better security on campus to alert sooner to a threat. The gun will be very close by, and very quick to access, but the box will still restrict access to unauthorized personnel.
    They make gun safes that are opened by finger-print scanners, and are pretty small and easily storeable - say, built into the teachers' desk. That seems like a good all-around solution.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    We have all been watching far too much Rambo and Under Siege. An averagely trained teacher wielding a fire arm, while under fire, is far more likely shoot a one of his students in the chaos of the event than "neutralize" an active shooter....
    What an interesting Claim. Fortunately, we have a wealth of incidences where armed individuals responding to an active shooter scenario have saved many lives. Can you demonstrate an equal or greater number of such individuals responding in such a way as to shoot more bystanders?

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Love this part of the article...

    Hutchinson said that the presence of armed school personnel would cut down the time needed to intercept an active shooter present inside school premises. "One thing you know for sure is that the response time is critical - if you can reduce that response time, if you have the firearm on the presence of someone in the school, it will save lives."
    They just used anti-gunners own arguement against them. The whole reason for magazine limits is to reduce the response time of the shooter giving someone time enough to "tackle" the shooter. Surely someone that can shoot from several feet away has a better chance at taking a shooter out than someone that has to run several feet in order to maybe tackle someone before they reload and fire a round into them right?
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, I am serious, guns in churches is a great idea for me. It could not possibly turn out poorly for me at all. Even in the example mentioned above, how many died from gun in those churches? It is a wonderful idea. You are just mad because you know why i support guns in churches and you also know i am right about what it would turn churches into.
    sigh...

    So you double down on the hyperbole.

    Tell me...what has the New Life Church turned into? They've had armed guards long before their shooting incident.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    We have all been watching far too much Rambo and Under Siege. An averagely trained teacher wielding a fire arm, while under fire, is far more likely shoot a one of his students in the chaos of the event than "neutralize" an active shooter....

    Sorry, but the whole gun debate / NRA posturing on school safety is rapidly moving to the territory of absurdity. Reason was abandoned long ago.
    we heard the same crap from the ARC when CCW licenses were being debated in the various state legislatures. The ARC wants victim disarmament zones so they can have more massacres to use to push for gun bans



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    they will need an armed guard to shoot you when you go nuts and start blowing people away in the parking lot. That is what MAD is all about.
    typical. But thanks for demonstrating what you really think about law abiding citizens owning guns. Those planning on killing kids-Like Lanza-premeditate their crimes and those wanting bans hope for more such massacres



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, I am serious, guns in churches is a great idea for me. It could not possibly turn out poorly for me at all. Even in the example mentioned above, how many died from gun in those churches? It is a wonderful idea. You are just mad because you know why i support guns in churches and you also know i am right about what it would turn churches into.
    That would be a great idea. The Preacher and Choir are generally on some sort of platform above everyone else. They could all be armed and ready. You could also have 2 or 3 people with AR-15's in the back to guard the doors. That would be the best way to honor God.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What an interesting Claim. Fortunately, we have a wealth of incidences where armed individuals responding to an active shooter scenario have saved many lives. Can you demonstrate an equal or greater number of such individuals responding in such a way as to shoot more bystanders?
    I don't think its a stretch to claim that NYPD officers, in all probability, will have better arms training than almost any teacher packing heat:

    NYPD confirms: All bystanders in Empire State attack hit by police bullets - U.S. News


    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/30/opinion/frum-guns-safer

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