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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Still not using the quote code correctly...when you quote someone, their name and the blue 'backtrack' button should appear in every quote box....sloppiness....
    Uhh, that's stupidly redundant. Why would I waste my time doing that when I can simply write [quote][/quote]? Is your attention span so short you need to be reminded each time to what post I'm referring?

    So you're telling me to "Follow the line of the conversation" while you can't do that yourself.
    I very clearly posted the conversation.

    I am not responsible for what others say. I am only responsible for what I say and not anything else.
    Which is why I included the "and/or" part. Seriously, reading comprehension isn't difficult.

    No you can't, and you admit this below....
    *sigh*

    I've already explained why you're wrong. Go back and read one of the other two times I've explained it.

    ...so now you're equivocating.
    No, that is two separate conversations. Why are incapable of understanding this?

    Well, along that line of discussion, guns aren't seen as a negative out here. A teacher with a gun is no big deal.
    But it changes the dynamic of the teacher/student relationship, as I've already explained. Multiple times, as I've explained the above multiple times. Now it's upon you to show you're capable of understanding it.

    I won't hold my breath.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    The Sentinel program isn't intended to replace SWAT or any form of law enforcement. We have SWAT and law enforcement for that. Sentinels are not superheros, just ordinary people who are already there.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    But it changes the dynamic of the teacher/student relationship, as I've already explained.
    See that's just the thing: You claimed it, but you haven't explained it. In SD, OR, or any other state where firearms are in schools, it's not a problem, so I have no reason to believe you.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See that's just the thing: You claimed it, but you haven't explained it. In SD, OR, or any other state where firearms are in schools, it's not a problem, so I have no reason to believe you.
    Most normal people don't like being near a weapon that can kill you in an instant, even if the purported "sentinel" is purportedly on your side. (God I love NRA rightspeak)

    Now I guess conservatives aren't normal or at least they like pretending that they're sooooo tough that they don't mind having weapons around. But a weaponized environment is unsettling and not conducive to learning. Take your guns and go to Starbucks and hang out like a tough guy. Keep your guns out of school.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Most normal people don't like being near a weapon that can kill you in an instant, even if the purported "sentinel" is purportedly on your side. (God I love NRA rightspeak)

    Now I guess conservatives aren't normal or at least they like pretending that they're sooooo tough that they don't mind having weapons around. But a weaponized environment is unsettling and not conducive to learning. Take your guns and go to Starbucks and hang out like a tough guy. Keep your guns out of school.
    ...I just can't be trolled that easy. Be more creative.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Again, I don't really get the concern some people have that a few teachers carrying concealed weapons is going to permanently scar Little Johnnies' psyche, or that kids are going to be getting Teacher's gun when they don't necessarily know who is armed... and even if they do, they don't know where on the teacher's person it is concealed.


    As I've said elsewhere, I've been going armed for almost 30 years, both as a cop and as a citizen. I've raised a child, and spent a lot of time around my hordes of nieces and nephews and cousins and whatnot from age nothing to teenagers, always carrying a gun.... and it has never been a problem. The gun stays on me, stays concealed, and no child has ever gotten his hands on it.

    When my son first realized I carried a gun daily, he was probably around four years old or so. He asked me why I carried... answering at his level, I said "in case I need to protect us from bad guys." He accepted that. It didn't affect our relationship. It didn't make him afraid of me. It didn't scar him for life. Today he's a healthy 17yo nearly the size of a pro linebacker who enjoys life and loves his father (but does argue with me sometimes).

    Due to an incident where I had to go up to my niece's house and draw my weapon because of a threat situation, one of her sons (today age 7) is aware that Uncle G carries a gun. We had a very similar conversation about it afterward. He's perfectly comfortable with me, knowing I'm armed. Every time he sees me he comes running to jump on me and hug me and ask me to play with him.

    I go to family events where there may be anywhere from a handful to several dozen children running around all the time... and I'm not the only adult in the group who goes armed... and we've never had any incidents of children getting an adults' concealed-carry firearm off their person.

    This issue is being overhyped.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See that's just the thing: You claimed it, but you haven't explained it.
    Yes, I did. I explained it, it's not my fault if you didn't read it.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, I did. I explained it, it's not my fault if you didn't read it.
    You said it was so, but you didn't explain how, you didn't offer supporting links, nothing.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Sure, someone pulls a knife on you and you're going to ask them to wait while you run all the way to the other side of the campus to get your gun.

    That's so ****ing retarded.

    It's incredibly difficult to disarm someone without getting shot in the process. No box required.
    No one's suggesting the guns are "across campus" or even across the classroom.

    And it's not like the shooter's gonna teleport into the classroom as soon as he starts attacking. A guard will see him on the security cameras, and the PA will announce "The superintendent is in the building." Teachers unlock their guns and lock the door. They'll be well-prepared to shoot the maniac the moment he enters the door.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    No one's suggesting the guns are "across campus" or even across the classroom.

    And it's not like the shooter's gonna teleport into the classroom as soon as he starts attacking. A guard will see him on the security cameras, and the PA will announce "The superintendent is in the building." Teachers unlock their guns and lock the door. They'll be well-prepared to shoot the maniac the moment he enters the door.
    It's just so much safer/cheaper/easier for folks to keep their gun on their person. We just skip past all the liability and lock-boxes and code words etc and cut right to it.

    You want to add all this red tape and it just not called for.

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