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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    *Note* Apologies for the double post, forum timed out in between.
    No worries. Happened to me too.

    Of course it is. You have to decide to fight or flee. You need to know how many intruders there are, where they are, and what their intentions (specifically) might be.
    If no one is armed, ALL of the people in the school are at the shooter's mercy. They can't fight back because people like you won't allow them that opportunity.

    Could you please read the long post I posted earlier, the one about having uniformed police officers in the building? Thank you.
    Well, if you could tell me the page # or post #, that would be extremely helpful and I definitely will check it out.

    Yes, you are right. The teacher would most likely be the first one killed.
    No, if the teacher is armed, he/she has a fighting chance. If you leave them unarmed, they are all going to be dead.

    Unequivocally false. The children WOULD know and it WOULD have an effect on the environment. If introducing a gun to a situation doesn't change the dynamic in a situation, why bother to have the gun in the first place. Your entire argument is based around the gun changing the dynamic in a situation, why do you think it would not do the same in other situations?
    Wrong. The children wouldn't know unless you told them.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Funny thing is for a short time SD was thinking of putting NG in the schools as a public feel-good measure. I called my armory and made sure my name was on the list.

    The public wouldn't trust me as a with a hand gun, but a machine gun is ok.

    It's just clothing. I'm the same person in uniform that I am in jeans and hoodie.
    As an Army Sergent once told me, "don't worry about the bullet with your name on it. It's the one marked to whom it may concerned that you need to worry about." Machine guns are largely a weapon that spreads an area, and not the weapon of a marksman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    By which you mean.... ?
    Not sure what you don't understand. I can say I don't buy your premise any clear than I don't buy your premise. And many do puff up their own abilities in an effort to create the image of themselves that they both want to project and believe. However, despite meeting many people who think they are just fantastic with a weapon, I've met very few who can actually back that up. Most are more silly bark than actual bite.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yep...typical liberal/socialist debate tactic again: When my ass gets handed to me, the best course of action is to double down. Use the tactic again. Maybe they'll forget that I'm a dumbass.

    Sorry, dude. Every time you open your mouth, you remind us.
    His posts are generally tl and not worth reading. The dynamic bit is psychobabble. My relationship never changed with people I interact with depending on whether I am carrying or not EXCEPT A COUPLE MUGGERS who thought beating on the white boy was a good move

    The dynamic was far different since one got a 9mm colonoscopy



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No worries. Happened to me too.



    If no one is armed, ALL of the people in the school are at the shooter's mercy. They can't fight back because people like you won't allow them that opportunity.



    Well, if you could tell me the page # or post #, that would be extremely helpful and I definitely will check it out.



    No, if the teacher is armed, he/she has a fighting chance. If you leave them unarmed, they are all going to be dead.



    Wrong. The children wouldn't know unless you told them.
    BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER. Slyfox apparently has never carried and thus he projects his lack of understanding onto those of us who do.



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER. Slyfox apparently has never carried and thus he projects his lack of understanding onto those of us who do.
    It's funny how people say "no, it will change the dynamic" and "the children will know" but don't explain how or why. They just make these matter of fact statements without backing them up in any way.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's funny how people say "no, it will change the dynamic" and "the children will know" but don't explain how or why. They just make these matter of fact statements without backing them up in any way.
    I suspect he wouldn't know how to carry a gun so he figured he'd be walking funny. One of my friends was in the Czech republic teaching some cops and tried carrying without a good holster and the gun slipped into is shorts. He said he had to walk real funny to get to the restroom so he could retrieve the weapon!



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    they told us auto was just so you didnt have to die with ammo left. Cause most generally you didnt hit anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As an Army Sergent once told me, "don't worry about the bullet with your name on it. It's the one marked to whom it may concerned that you need to worry about." Machine guns are largely a weapon that spreads an area, and not the weapon of a marksman.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure what you don't understand.
    well, for starters, you can actually identify what you are saying. because this:

    =Boo Radley]Honestly, I don't believe that. I work with some, and have many times in the past. I think some just try to convince themselves of that.
    Leaves the subjects as "that" and "some". It is all pronoun with no antecedent. Worked with "some" what? Police Officers? People who carry? People who carry and are properly trained? Police Officers who are poorly trained? You do not say, nor do you plainly indicate. I thought you taught this stuff.

    I can say I don't buy your premise any clear than I don't buy your premise.
    Then you need to say "I don't buy your premise." And then you could even identify which premise that was, thereby obviating the need for me to ask.

    And many do puff up their own abilities in an effort to create the image of themselves that they both want to project and believe. However, despite meeting many people who think they are just fantastic with a weapon, I've met very few who can actually back that up. Most are more silly bark than actual bite.
    Then it should be childs' play for you to pick up where he failed, and find any evidence whatsoever in the many, many, many cases we have of armed citizen response, of the tendency of civilians to fire into non-combatants at an equal or greater rate than police officers.

    ....but.... somehow... I sort of suspect you cannot.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As an Army Sergent once told me, "don't worry about the bullet with your name on it. It's the one marked to whom it may concerned that you need to worry about." Machine guns are largely a weapon that spreads an area, and not the weapon of a marksman.
    Yeah, I heard that old saw, too. Since then I've come under precision fire and under automatic fire, and I have to say that the precision fire was more deadly (against us). Conversely, we are taught to take well aimed shots, and not to switch to 3-round-burst, as it is considered a waste of ammunition. Spray and Pray is a suppression tactic.

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